Where' the Action then.

[clever dicky]

Sorry but after reading through the posts relating to dvla, all I find are useful comments that reiterate various chunks of legislation thats come about from one year to the next.
Yet from illegal clamping to having cars dragged off private driveways and very obvious persecution from dvla a sad picture is developing.

Little have I found anywhere to offer an explanation of who or why, (other than waffle about crime and terrorist propaganda) and little do I read that mentions any ongoing protest or application or amendment to the government about this sorry state thats come about.

While this forum is excellent for providing an oppertunity to sound out about problems and may represent a sample of those victimised by dvla (the state) its not indicitive of everyone who has had a run in with these "fascist's" and other than helpful comments from fellow victims, thats it.

While little objection is made to our government wasting many tens of millions of pounds more just to build new adminastritive centres filled with letter writers to do this, these centres provide little more than jobs for mostly women and a large steady income that pays the bloated salaries and a steady income stream for GB.
some people question the civil liberties lost in Britain today.
Might there be a connection in this brave new Britain?

Terrorism / crime = state control / Money.

Come on action forums, lets see some.

[Conniff]

The DVLA laws are that you must continuously tax your car or if not able then to declare SORN. This so they know where every car is and it can help in the fight against crime.
The same goes for MoT certificate and Insurance.

That is the official line and it's meaning is straight forward and makes common sense.

If you are so worried about the continuous registration then YOU start a movement to have something done about it. You will fail, but have a go.
Organise a petition (which will fail), organise marches (which will fail), in fact anything you might wish to organise will fail.

There is nothing wrong with the sentiment of this law, but I feel the real reason is to make money, not from those extra tax discs that are being sold, but from the penalty notices that are being sent out in there thousands each week.

All that can be done against this it to make them have some sort of appeals process of which there is none at present.

[clever dicky]

Well if thats your attitude, we've lost before we begin. Lucky then history has been dotted with a few other hero types or we'd still be sucking mud.

Here's part of MY last (3rd) letter to DVLA. (they want to fine me 200 pounds for having the wrong date on my tax. Saying I deliberatly bought it to start the begining of the next month- about a week early. Except I bought it because it was a condition of the release fee and refund from NCP.)

It will now be read in court and further will be blasted at my MP.
Just remember blowing people up doesnt always get you what you want. Many have tried including Hitler, its the letter writers and those who are persistantly annoying and pursuasive that win. Look how the EU has progressed, - for example.

". . .I’m not yet a terrorist and none of this is really a life threatening issue, so why should it matter so? This whole matter has caused untold inconvenience and hardship to me yet who’s actually at fault if anyone? You know, I have had many jobs in my career in the real world and one thing I have learnt is that while none of us are perfect and people do make mistakes, it’s the attitude of the person that matters. And while people from all walks of life from local government to premiership are hauled over the coals for incompetence or mistakes it’s the intention and attitude that separates the good from the bad. You and the government know you operate an overly complicated system that is flawed yet you exploit legislation to negate any responsibility of sorting it, and instead heavily penalise defenceless people like me.
As you are no doubt aware life is full of discrepancies and I don’t doubt for one second dvla has been in any way deliberately awkward or greedy in using NCP to wrongly clamp my car. These things do happen. So to use legislation to criminalise me now when we are not all perfect in an imperfect world is unfair, unjust and unreasonable. I honestly would have expected better. I have even been to court before with dvla over another silly mistake when using the wrong cheque book and now you want to do it again. I have apologised and I have offered and paid for the discrepancy. But your demand for settlement is completely out of proportion to any alleged crime. Like many nowadays simple errors affect all of us like using banks. The difference now is the public and courts have realised how unreasonable banks have been for many years and what they’ve got away with. You see it’s that trying to exploit others for the simple mistakes we all make, that grieves people. Your time will come.
So please note that if my explanation still does not convince you to offer a discharge instead of a ‘settlement’, I will defend myself in Court with the hope that the Magistrates will accept this explanation I offer. As it was a genuine misunderstanding and I have made attempts to correct the error which you have so far refused. I am sure that even if they don’t have the option to show discrepancy in the spirit of true and fair justice they will at least know of ONE person with the right attitude even if they have made a mistake."

[Conniff]

You and the government know you operate an overly complicated system

That bits wrong dicky. They in fact operate a very simple system. All government departments now, without exception, are money making departments, that is their prime roll, the type of department ie in this case vehicle tax, is just a secondary roll.

The operation is simple in the fact it only has one rule - screw the people for as much as you can.