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Old 21st March 2008, 17:37   #1 (permalink)
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I passed my driving test in 1986. In 2001, due to my job, I had to send the old style licence back to DVLA and I have a green counterpart with the photo part too.

However, my entitlements on the photo card are just B, BE, f,k,l,n,p.

Should it not also state C1 and D1 too? Or is it just accepted I am entitled to those groups by virtue of when I passed my test?

I say this as the DVLA explain the pre '97 laws but their website states that any new licence issued, as in my circumstance, should state C1 and D1 too.

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I wouldn't accept anything to do with the DVLA as 'just accepted', or the truth. They are a department of the treasury now and not traffic records, they just say they are.
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I passed my test in 1988 and I have C1, C1E and D1 on my photo licence.
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I wouldn't accept anything to do with the DVLA as 'just accepted', or the truth. They are a department of the treasury now and not traffic records, they just say they are.

Thanks for that Conniff.

However, what I mean is that if I was stopped driving a 7.5t and produced my licence to the police, and by them calling DVLA, would it be acceptable that even though my licence states just B, BE, the database would show I passed in 86 so I have the entitlement?

Surely if I passed my test back in 86 then there is no doubt I also have these extra entitlements?
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I passed my test in 1988 and I have C1, C1E and D1 on my photo licence.
So obviously you must have changed your original licence from 88 to the photo one?

Why put it on yours and not mine?
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Who knows? I have only driven a 7.5 tonner once in the entire time!!

I would contact the DVLA for clarification if they can manage that
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Who knows? I have only driven a 7.5 tonner once in the entire time!!

I would contact the DVLA for clarification if they can manage that
Hmmm, I've tried but it's a bit of a chore just to get to speak to somebody!

I will try again anyway-they are open tomorrow.

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I passed in 1996 not long before all the new rules came in, I had to send my paper licence back for change of address a few years ago so it was a new photo one issued, all my catagories are still there for 7.5 etc. I would contact them and ask for it to be rectified free of charge since its a mistake on their part, saves a lotta hasstle if you get a producer from a cop.
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There was a change in classifications, many of them went from a single letter to a X1, where weight limits were restricted. I don;t believe this was in error, it was harmonisation with EU classifications. I think I lost the right to drive 35+cwt vehicles, but it wasn't an issue for me.
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Well, I finally got through and the DVLA were most helpful.
I just need to send off my licence and they will add the entitlements on.

They actually admitted an error on their part.
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I passed my test in 93 and changed to a photocard in 99? my entitlements are B, BE, C1, C1E, D1, D1E, f,k,l,n,p

whatever they all are lol
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ooo hang on though, on the front it says that the license is valid to 13-22-12, surely that is not right, I thought that the license was valid till your 70th birthday?
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ahhh just read up, you just need to update the license after 10 years to keep up to date with your appearance
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Yes, that's what mine should read. It allows you to drive up to 7.5t.
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Yes, that's what mine should read. It allows you to drive up to 7.5t.
they wouldn't allow it if they knew me
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Me too! I recently went for a job driving a 7.5t vehicle and at the end of the test they said 'we'll call you.'

Except they haven't!!
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