DVLA problem,help needed

[gemini123]

I am a new user of the forum,read many posts which are alredy posted ,some of them are similar of my problem but none is same so thought to start new thread,My problem is as under
I had a car which was crashed in a road accident,immidiatly after crash car was taken to a garage,(in scotland),3 days later i contacted the yard owner and told him that i want to scrap this car and requested him (scrap yard owner)to send me the tax disk so i can claim back my road tax.
He posted me the tax disk and asked for a covering letter or consent letter to scrap the car along with log book(v5).I sent him both covering letter and log book,
Took a v14 form filled that up and sent to the dvla for tax refund posted on 5th Sep07(car was taxed until 30/11/07),got a cheque from DVLA few days after for the amount £19.17,(two months tax)
A month after i got apenalty letter from DVLA that you were the registered keeper on 05/09/07 of the car and you did not declaire SORN (its clearly stated on their website if u have sold or scrap the car you dont need to declaire sorn)
Press release 16: DVLA reminds motorists to ensure vehicle tax or SORN is up to date )

I've written them a letter and told all the story about car but they sent me a letter stating that THANK YOU FOR TELLING US ABOUT NEW OWNER but you still have to pay penalty

Today got the final notice
So what to do now pls help

[Brassed off]

Hi Gemini and welcome to CAG

DVLA are a nightmare at the best of times. Although I can't help you with your enquiry, I've asked a MOD to move your thread to our DVLA forum (see link below) where you will get more specific advice on your situation.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dvla/

Good Luck!

Bo

[gemini123]

thx for your reply and sorry for posting in a wrong forum
So pls move it to the right one
thx again

[Brassed off]

Hey no worries Gemini. You have posted on the right forum to start with as it gives us the opportunity to say hello to you!

One of our nice MODs will come and move your thread to the DVLA forum. In the meantime, click on the link I gave you and have a read through

[HSBCrusher]

thread moved.

welcome gemini

[Conniff]

Sorry to take you glory away gemini, but your problem is exactly like all the other. That problem is the DVLA are not a tax issuing office or records keeping office, they are a government money making office, and no matter what you think the problem, they will send you a penalty notice.

Yes it does say that on their website, but what it means is that you need to send them the section of the log book signed that it has been scrapped and that will negate any need for tax or sorn.

Until they receive some notice that the car has been scrapped, they cannot amend the record and accordingly the car is still out there somewhere untaxed.

I am assuming that you gave the whole log book to the scrappy and never sent your part to DVLA.
You will need to ring or visit the scrappy and get the bit you need to send off from him or get him to send his notification.

Unfortunately until DVLA receive either of these you will remain the registered keeper and liable for payments due.

There is a chance the car could be put back on the road and if it gets caught in speeding cameras or issued with parking tickets, you will also be liable for payment of those as well.

[patdavies]

Conniff is right - you should never have surrendered the whole V5.

You should have completed the yellow section (S.9) and sent that separately to the DVLA.

I'm afraid that you are liable. You are still the RK because a) you have failed to notify the DVLA, and b) the scrapper has not notified them of scrapping the vehicle.

[gemini123]

thx for help first of all
but as I mensioned that a V14 form has been sent as well (when i sent V14 then car was taxed) and they have recieved that because they sent me the tax refund.And according to DVLA website IF YOU CLAIM REFUND THEN SEND A V14 INSTED OF SORN
Is it considerable ?

[patdavies]

Originally Posted by gemini123

thx for help first of all
but as I mensioned that a V14 form has been sent as well (when i sent V14 then car was taxed) and they have recieved that because they sent me the tax refund.And according to DVLA website IF YOU CLAIM REFUND THEN SEND A V14 INSTED OF SORN
Is it considerable ?

The V14 has a space for declaring SORN - did you complete this part fo the form? I would suspect not as you believed that the car was to be scrapped. But the form also states that you must inform the DVLA that you have passed it onto a trader (you oly declare scrapping if you do it yourself)