ANPR opt-out

[buzby]

[Yawn]

Haven't your batteries run down yet?

[Rob S]

Originally Posted by buzby

For someone who has been a CAG member for barely eight weeks, that's pretty rich!

Funny, there is nothing in the forum rules about length of membership of CAG having an impact on the validity of their posts. There have been plenty of CAG members who have given great advice from their very first post. Length of membership of CAG is irrelevant.

I guess your problem is being unable to accept criticism, hence your feeble attempt to deflect attention away from the validity of their post.

[Rob S]

Originally Posted by buzby

[Yawn]

Haven't your batteries run down yet?

No, plenty more juice in them

Still waiting for the answers old chap.

[lilal]

anpr may help to recover the car ,if the low life is that dim not to change the plates just after nicking it.the money spent on anpr would have been better spent on more traffic plod ,poor driving has got to be more of an issue than vehicle taking.this government convinces people that speed is the main cause of accidents.driving without due care or careless driving is the real cause.how,s your anpr/speed camera gonna stop that .a better traffic police should have been in place first then anpr could have been brought in then if needed

[Rob S]

You are correct Lilal. More traffic police are needed, as numbers have been reduced considerably over the years.

But technologies like ANPR are a useful tool in helping detect vehicles that have been used in crime. Mention has been made of vehicles with cloned plates not being detected, but this is not strictly true. if owners of vehicles whose plates have been cloned report it to police, a police report can be placed on the vehicle record and this will be picked up by ANPR if the vehicle goes through.

Ultimately we need a change in government policy with regards to the speed = safety debate, but whilst the cash registers keep on ringing it is unlikely to happen soon.

[patdavies]

Originally Posted by buzby

[Yawn]

Haven't your batteries run down yet?

I see no reason for this - an ad hominem attack.

Resorting to such tactic is usually a sign that somebody cannot refute the argument or answer the questions coherently and instead rely on a personal attack

[freakyleaky]

Can I ask, if a speed camera is triggered by a vehicle breaking the speed limmit, and there is another car within the white lines at the time that is travelling below the limmit, can the camera wrongly issue the ticket to the vehicle that was withion the limmit? This is on a dual carridge way!

[Rob S]

As long as the photos are examined properly by the scamera partnership, then the scenario you describe shouldn't happen. But I wouldn't be surprised if it has. It would be a question of asking to see the photos to see if there are any other vehicles in shot, if the scenario you describe has actually happened.

[Rob S]

Originally Posted by buzby

I've already shown how a local force values it - what more proof would you need?

No, you've given details of uncorroborated conversations you have had with a couple of local officers and nothing more. That is not proof by any stretch of the imagination.

[patdavies]

Originally Posted by freakyleaky

Can I ask, if a speed camera is triggered by a vehicle breaking the speed limmit, and there is another car within the white lines at the time that is travelling below the limmit, can the camera wrongly issue the ticket to the vehicle that was withion the limmit? This is on a dual carridge way!

For a Gatso, the lines are the secondary check.

A Gatso takes 2 photographs; they are time stamped, but usually 0.5 seconds apart. Since the lines are a known distance apart, the distance that you have travelled in the time between the photographs can be used to calculate your true speed.

[freakyleaky]

Thanks Pat and Rob. It happened to me last week although I have not received a ticket as yet. I was driving through the lined area below the limmit when a car came behind me and overtook. as it overtook me the camera flashed as he must have been doing at least 50 and the limmit was 40. I was worried that the camera may have picked up my plate as the offending vehicle.
Obviously I now know that they will be able to tell that I was below the limmit from the timing between the lines.
Thankyou both!

[Bookworm]

Originally Posted by freakyleaky

Can I ask, if a speed camera is triggered by a vehicle breaking the speed limmit, and there is another car within the white lines at the time that is travelling below the limmit, can the camera wrongly issue the ticket to the vehicle that was withion the limmit? This is on a dual carridge way!

If you are flashed by a GATSO then ACPO guidelines state there must be only one car in the frame otherwise you have no primary speed reading for a definate car and only the secondary, no corroboration and therefore no conviction (in theory).

Answered given to me on Pepipoo when I asked a while back.

[buzby]

Originally Posted by patdavies

I see no reason for this - an ad hominem attack.

Resorting to such tactic is usually a sign that somebody cannot refute the argument or answer the questions coherently and instead rely on a personal attack

Neither could I - did you see who lobbed the first stone? Indeed, all of Mr R's comments invariably start off with insults. I only respond. As for refuting an argument - there's never been one that I can see, simply a blind gainsaying that does not promote the debate or indeed add anything to it. But hey, the world is full of folk who cannot accept any other PoV than their own. Like a dog with a bone, the old ground just keeps on coming round. I've got much better things to do with my time than entertain someone that cannot see the full picture.

[buzby]

Originally Posted by Rob S

No, plenty more juice in them

Still waiting for the answers old chap.

You'll get them in the next life if your lucky.

[buzby]

Originally Posted by Rob S

No, you've given details of uncorroborated conversations you have had with a couple of local officers and nothing more. That is not proof by any stretch of the imagination.

Not for you, no. But then I can live with that - especially as you've not explained why if ANPR is so effective, why there as so many stolen cars out there, and they're not getting any less?