Company handling debt gone bustand new company say I've never made payments

[fionabain]

Can anyone help or advise me on this?
I have tried searching but cant seem to find anything.
I had a debt that had been passed to a company called Collect One.
I had been merrily paying them money every month from September 2007 until present time and had halved my debt with them and thought I was great. Till I got a phonecall from a company called Marlin Financial Services saying I was due them £XXXX but I had never heard of them. After a lengthy discussion it turns out Collect One had gone down the tubes since I had been paying them but I hadnt been contacted due to moving house and I hadnt changed the address. Stupid I know. Anyway Marlin say I owe them the full amount before I paid so I sent bank statements as proof that I had paid but they sent one straight back to say thanks but we have received 2 payments from Collect One for your debt but not the rest so you still have to pay it all.
What can I do?

[PGH7447]

tell em (MARLIN) to prove they have not had the payments, sounds like a scam to me. and contact collect one or the recievers to find out what is going on, but do not repay what you have paid, you could also CCA Marlin to see if they can legally collect the debt, assuming the debt is covered by a consumer gredit agreement

[fionabain]

Originally Posted by PGH7447

tell em (MARLIN) to prove they have not had the payments, sounds like a scam to me. and contact collect one or the recievers to find out what is going on, but do not repay what you have paid, you could also CCA Marlin to see if they can legally collect the debt, assuming the debt is covered by a consumer gredit agreement

I have done so and rightly or wrongly am not paying anyone else till the matter is resolved. Trust no one! Sorry for being thick/ignorant but what do you mean by CCA them?

[Pinky69]

A CCA request is a request under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 asking for a copy of the original agreement pertaining to alleged debt.




The Loan Company
Company House,
Church Street,
Newtown,
Kent,
R1 7HG

Dear Sir/Madam

Re:− Account/Reference Number 4563210025897412

With reference to the above agreement, we would be grateful if you would send us a copy of this credit agreement.

We understand that under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (Sections 77−79), we are entitled to receive a copy of our credit agreement on request. We enclose a payment of £1.00 which represents the fee payable under the Consumer Credit Act.

We understand a copy of our credit agreement should be supplied within 12 working days.

We understand that under the Consumer Credit Act creditors are unable to enforce an agreement if they fail to comply with a request for a copy of the agreement under these sections of the Act.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Yours faithfully
Mr A N Other

Send the £1 by postal order and do not sign the letter - print your signature or initials. They have 12 (plus 2 for admin) working days to send you a copy of the agreement. If they fail to do so, they are in default of your request and you do not have to make further payment. After a further 30 days, if they still haven't sent you a copy they commit an offence and you can report then to Trading Standards and the OFT. Golden Rule No 1 - NEVER speak to them on the phone. Either hang up or leave them hanging to waste their bill - they will only bully you into paying them. If they start to harass you on the phone, there is a letter you'll get on here abou harassment. If you receive anything from them, scan it on here to find out if it is legally enforceable.

[JonCris]

Originally Posted by PGH7447

tell em (MARLIN) to prove they have not had the payments, sounds like a scam to me. and contact collect one or the recievers to find out what is going on, but do not repay what you have paid, you could also CCA Marlin to see if they can legally collect the debt, assuming the debt is covered by a consumer gredit agreement

What rubbish these DCA's talk.

They have taken over the previous companies debtor/accounts so are liable for any payments you have made. (which I doubt & are just the same people trying it on) The fact that they didn't get the funds from the other company is their fault not yours. They can't demand payment twice for the same debt

Having provoked the situation do as suggested & send the various template letters & lets see if we can kick this bunch into touch completely

In the meantime could one of our many experts on here search both companies to see if there is any link such same address, directors or consumer credit licence

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[JonCris]

http://www.marlinfinancialservic es.co.uk/index.php


& can you give us the full name & address of the one that's supposed to have gone bust Collect One

[fionabain]

Originally Posted by JonCris

& can you give us the full name & address of the one that's supposed to have gone bust Collect One

collect one
international house
kingsfield court
chester business park
chester ch4 9rf
0845 271 7919

[JonCris]

Is there anything directly after the name 'collect one'

[PGH7447]

collect one
international house
kingsfield court
chester business park
chester ch4 9rf
0845 271 7919

On the web that property is up for rent from Feb this year

This name does not appear to exist on companies house register

[Conniff]

How can you suggest your thick and make a statement like:

am not paying anyone else till the matter is resolved. Trust no one!

That's definately not thick or stupid, that is sense.

[JonCris]

Conniff the OP is asking what's a CCA not that their thick for not paying

[Conniff]

Sorry - must have misread, I thought they were running themselves down and they shouldn't.

[fionabain]

Originally Posted by JonCris

Is there anything directly after the name 'collect one'

read the small print at the bottom of the letter:-

CollectOne Limited
Registered in England number 04821607
and their main address is the registered one.

[PGH7447]

Here you go

http://www.creditgate.com/companysea...E+LIMITED.aspx

CO4.2S - Court Order for notice of wind up 11/09/2000 CO4.2S

[fionabain]

Mmmmm....didnt know you get access to all that sort of info.
So where do I stand?

[JonCris]

Originally Posted by PGH7447

Here you go

http://www.creditgate.com/companysea...E+LIMITED.aspx

CO4.2S - Court Order for notice of wind up 11/09/2000 CO4.2S

2000? is that correct PGH?

[PGH7447]

This was listed under the collectone listing but reading it properly it may just be an example, Sorry

[dannyboy660]

Something very fishy here.

Take a look at WebCHeck - Select and Access Company Information and I think you will find that Red2Black Collections and CollectOne are, in fact, the same company.


It seems CollectOne still exist but under a different name...so where does Marlin fit in???

I would start my investigations of where the money went with Mr Nick Cherry

Red2Black Collections Ltd

International House
Kingsfield Court
Chester Business Park
Chester
CH4 9RF

Contact: Mr N Cherry
Phone: 07974 328213
Fax: 0845 2717827
Email: nick.cherry@red2blackcoll ections.co.uk
Link: www.red2blackcollections. co.uk
Service: ABEFIJTUCKMOQ
Area:
Region: NW
Type: Full

CSA Website

If he can't/won't help, it may be worthwhile getting some professional legal assistance.

[dannyboy660]

Slightly ironic/laughable/shocking is the fact that Mr Cherry also has another baby The Funding Corporation

Lending it out in the morning, snatching it back plus interest afternoons and evenings, it appears.

I'm assuming it's the same person, but the address is the same, so......

	Are you letting your bank keep your money Are you giving away thousands of pounds?? Many people aren't claiming all of the money they are entitled to when they make their bank charges claims. You have been forced to pay unfair bank charges. Have you forgotten that your bank has charged you inteest on those charges? If you are overdrawn and the bank owes you charges - then your overdraft is made up of charges - money which you bank owes you. Yet you are paying interest to the bank - on your own money!!! Follow this link to see the discussions on this. You might even double th size of your claim.

[JonCris]

The Funding Corporation are one of the worst ................ apparently

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