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27th September 2007, 18:39
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#201 (permalink)
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I am in: Waziristan
Posts: 645
| Re: Bankruptcy Order !!! Quote:
Originally Posted by 42man No I haven't written to my MP.....I think I could send him an email today !! | Make sure you tell him/her that it looks like underhand tactics have been used to serve the SD and petition without you noticing because the debt is unenforceable. |
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27th September 2007, 18:42
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#203 (permalink)
| | Gold Account Customer
I am in: Waziristan
Posts: 645
| Re: Bankruptcy Order !!! Quote:
Originally Posted by 42man I've just written to my MP.... | Good move - let us know what the response is. |
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27th September 2007, 21:39
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#204 (permalink)
| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: Bankruptcy Order !!! This is a start: Affidavit in support. Circumstances surrounding the issue of the bankruptcy order. 1. On DATE, I received a bankruptcy order dated DATE, from COUNTY COURT. 2. I did not receive a statutory demand or the bankruptcy petition until DATE, after requesting a copy from the court. 3. I understand that my wife, XXXX, received a copy of the statutory demand from a process server. She was unaware of the importance of this paperwork, and did not give me it. 4. I applied for a set aside immediately after I was aware of the grounds that the order was made. Legal grounds for the application to set aside. 5. It is my belief that, at the time the court granted a bankruptcy petition, there were grounds existing that (a) meant that the debt was not immediately payable to the petitioner and (b) that the debt was rendered unenforceable by statute. 6. Consequently, I believe that the court should exercise its powers under s282(1)(a) of the Insolvency Act 1986. Perfection of the assignment. 7. It is noted that the claimants, in affidavits in support of the bankruptcy petition, state that a notice of assignment according in all respects with s136 of the Law of Property Act 1925 “was sent to the claimant”. 8. I respectfully submit to the court that steps to ensure service of a notice of assignment are only adequate if the requirements of s196 of the law of property act 1925 are complied with regard to either (a) personal service or (b) postal service. 9 Since the claimant explicitly states the notice was “sent” it is assumed that this was done via the postal service. 10. The requirements for service via the post are 196. Regulations respecting notices. (4) Any notice required or authorised by this Act to be served shall also be sufficiently served, if it is sent by post in a registered letter addressed to the lessee, lessor, mortgagee, mortgagor, or other person to be served, by name, at the aforesaid place of abode or business, office, or counting-house, and if that letter is not returned [F1by the postal operator (within the meaning of the Postal Services Act 2000) concerned] undelivered; and that service shall be deemed to be made at the time at which the registered letter would in the ordinary course be delivered. [emphasis mine] 11. It is noted that the claimant has, at no time, provided evidence that the notice of assignment was sent via registered post, and if “sent” via any other method, the notice was not sufficiently served 12. I did not receive any notice of assignment in the format prescribed by law and served in the prescribed manner from the respondent, and I have asked the other members of my family if they signed for such a document; they have assured me that they did not. 13. To the best of my knowledge, any notice of assignment sent by registered post must, therefore have been returned to the respondent. 14 Consequently, I do not believe that any notice of assignment was properly served upon me at the date of the bankruptcy petition, and therefore any assignment was not perfected in law at the time the bankruptcy petition was granted. Unlawful charges 15. It is my belief that the account upon which the respondent based their bankruptcy petition was, during the life time of the account, subject to substantial charges and fees that amounted to penalty fees and were unlawful. 16 . If an assignment is effective, the assignee stands in the assignors place as regards the benefit of the contract. Its position can not be better than the original assignors, and is subject to prior equities. The assignees claim can not exceed the amount recoverable by the original assignor, had there been no assignment. Linden garden trust v. Lenesta Sludge Disposals [1994] 1 AC 85 (HL). 17. Throughout the course of the Agreement, the original creditor has added numerous default charges to the Account for the Claimant’s failure to make the minimum payment on the due date and or for exceeding the credit limit and or if a payment is returned. (Full particulars are set out in schedule 2). 18.The default charges were applied in accordance with the standard terms of The Agreement which were: a). A penalty payable on breach of contract and thus unenforceable: and b) An unfair term under the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 (“The Regulations”) and therefore not binding on the Claimant. 19. The Charges were payable on breach of contract by the Claimant. 20.The amount of the Charges exceeded any genuine pre-estimate of the damage which would have been suffered by the Bank in relation to the Claimant’s transgressions. 21. In the premises the Charges were punitive and a penalty and thus unenforceable at common law. 22. At all material times the terms of the Agreement providing for the Charges were unfair within regulation 5 of the Regulations in that contrary to the requirement of good faith they caused a significant imbalance in the parties' rights and obligations to the detriment of the Claimant.
23. By reason of the said matters the terms were not binding under regulation 8 of the Regulations. 24. Consequently, any default notice, notice of assignment, or other relevant document under the consumer credit act 1974, which are required to describe the amount owing under the agreement, would be inaccurate and therefore be void by law. Default Notice 25.. It is denied that any Default Notice was received by myself, and therefore the respondent is put to proof that the requirements of section 88(1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, as to form and content, were complied with. If these requirements were not complied with, the court would not have been entitled to grant any enforcement order and therefore such an enforcement order should be set aside. Enforceability of credit agreement 26. I have serious doubts as to whether any enforceable debt has ever existed between me and the respondent. 27. As of DATE, I sent a credit agreement request with the statutory payment of £1 to the respondent by registered post. They had 12 days to respond until the credit agreement became unenforceable by law, and a further month before committing a criminal offence. However, as of DATE they have not supplied the required information. 28. I have seen other peoples credit agreements from the same period, and they were unenforceable as a result of being improperly executed and not containing the prescribed terms. 29. I believe that, at the time the court granted the bankruptcy petition, it did so on the basis of the assertion in a sworn statement by the respondent that a liquidated sum was payable at the time that the order was made. I do not believe that they knowingly misled the court, but at no time was the credit agreement provided in evidence, and I have not been supplied with a copy of the credit agreement despite my legal rights. 30. If the agreement is, as I expect, unenforceable by law or if no written agreement exists, then the respondent was in error when it stated that a liquidated and legally enforceable sum was due to the respondent at the time the bankruptcy petition was issued. 31. I therefore request that the court order the respondent to supply an original copy of this document, and of any proof that a notice of assignment was sent in the prescribed manner and not returned, and of any proof that a default notice was served on me.
__________________ i will be off site for the next month or so. if you have any problems, feel free to report the post so a moderator can help you. I am not a qualified or practicing lawyer. |
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27th September 2007, 21:40
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#205 (permalink)
| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: Bankruptcy Order !!! To be honest, I am quite worried with this... given what i've seen, the stat demand was served correctly, and there really isn't much chance of getting it set aside (and, therefore, getting the bankruptcy overturned), but... at least it gives you something to go on.
Last edited by tomterm8; 27th September 2007 at 21:49.
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27th September 2007, 22:25
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#206 (permalink)
| | Platinum Account Customer
I am in: Tyneside
Posts: 3,522
| Re: Bankruptcy Order !!! Tom I think there is enough to raise sufficient doubt in a judge's mind. After all making someone bankrupt is extremely serious and if it is based on even partially unsound claims then I fail to see why it should be allowed to stand. |
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28th September 2007, 09:12
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#208 (permalink)
| | Gold Account Customer
I am in: Waziristan
Posts: 645
| Re: Bankruptcy Order !!! I would change point 3 see my PM |
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28th September 2007, 10:13
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#211 (permalink)
| | Gold Account Customer
I am in: Waziristan
Posts: 645
| Re: Bankruptcy Order !!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Josie8 Impressive affadavit BUT for some reason you appear to have completely ignored the House of Lords precedent case Wilson which if not cited in affadavit cannot then be considered. Wikson ruling makes Law of Property Act irrelevant as a creditor cannot sidestep the CCA if no enforceable agreement.
I can't understand why this case has been omitted as it is binding on ALL LOWER COURTS. | Have you got a link to the Wilson ruling Josie? |
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2nd October 2007, 15:09
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#213 (permalink)
| | Platinum Account Customer
I am in: Scotland
Posts: 12,840
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Is not providing a CCA after the 30+12+2 days actually a CRIMINAL offence does anybody know ??
| It's a summary criminal offence (although it is very rare for any prosecution to take place). The court you will be in is a civil court, not a criminal court, so the judge couldn't take any action on the offence. |
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