Leaflet / Card drops in (or around) branches?

[meagain]

Where I live, the average 3-bedroom houes is worth around £55k. A short walk away from me is a huge drag of council houses. Since I imagine a good proportion of these residents are likely to be in the worst-affect group, I suggest the following.

If someone can produce a suitable leaflet, get a batch printed and sent to me, I would willingly give up some of my time to take the flyering to the one place we can be reasonably safe - door-to-door through the postbox.

[jonni2bad]

I've just done this meagain - more than 1500 houses local to me. The response is vary hard to guage, other than the fact only 6 people turned up to hear more. We might never know how many people just came straight to the website though...

It's the actual posting that was more time consuming that I ever imagined and I'm still looking for one of my knuckles

I've had nearly as much response form a 3' x 1' article on the event that I didn't pay for and took 30 seconds to sort by email - which puts things into perspective a little.

[angeljen]

If I took the time to draw up a jpeg image of a flyer and posted it on the website for people to print off and post to their neighbours... (apart from jonni2bad, who already has) would anyone actually do it?

I don't wanna waste my time making a flyer if no-one is bothered!!!

[bp]

I would!

[angeljen]

Business Card stylee (can add to a business card in Publisher and print off loads in one go)



Tried to do a letter, but it's uploaded to my online photo album really small... Back to the drawing board...

[GaryH]

Nice one! Excellant job. I'd certainly be interested in distributing a load if you can get them printed off.

[angeljen]

What's wrong with your printer?

If I had £100 to get, like 5000 printed, I would, but I haven't got that kind of money! - And neither has the CAG...

What I suggest is that generous users of CAG print their own flyers and pop them round to their neighbours.

[GaryH]

Err.... oh yeah. Doh!

You'll have to excuse me, I barely know my way around a computer to be honest. I'll try to print some now....

[CJ&theBOS]

how about a marketing day near a popular bank? during rush hour.. would need a group of volunteers to hand out leaflets and t-shirts and explain how the banks are acting unlawfully etc (with appropriately witty slogans on t-shirts etc )

t-shirts
banner
A3, A4 posters
guidance leaflets on what to do to
e.g.
Mobile Billboard Advertising UK - Posters On Wheels (very expensive though!)

Could maybe generate enough publicity to get a mention in the local papers.
Either that or phone/email a couple of local reporters to get them to come along.

Sometimes sheer persistance and nagging at local mps and newspapers might get them to pay some attention.

[meagain]

Originally Posted by CJ&theBOS

how about a marketing day near a popular bank?

Considered, and rejected on the grounds of littering - it's a fairly minor thing, but the bank concerned will likely decide to be vindictive and milk it for all it's worth.

Sometimes sheer persistance and nagging at local mps and newspapers might get them to pay some attention.

Well, it's entirely failed so far. The banks are paying out on a commercial basis only, and still charging the unknowing masses. What would make considerable progress would be to do something they couldn't ignore - unfortunately, that comes with the risk that they will unload both barrels.

[CJ&theBOS]

Originally Posted by meagain

Considered, and rejected on the grounds of littering - it's a fairly minor thing, but the bank concerned will likely decide to be vindictive and milk it for all it's worth.

ehh? vindictive about litter that is caused??? to who?

but you dont target one bank specifically on the leaflets. If this kind of practice is good enough for political parties, charities, interest groups, promoting any kind of event at all! then i'm surprised and puzzled why it would suddenly fail in this case.

	Are you letting your bank keep your money Are you giving away thousands of pounds?? Many people aren't claiming all of the money they are entitled to when they make their bank charges claims. You have been forced to pay unfair bank charges. Have you forgotten that your bank has charged you inteest on those charges? If you are overdrawn and the bank owes you charges - then your overdraft is made up of charges - money which you bank owes you. Yet you are paying interest to the bank - on your own money!!! Follow this link to see the discussions on this. You might even double th size of your claim.

[meagain]

Originally Posted by CJ&theBOS

ehh? vindictive about litter that is caused??? to who?

Whoever's leafleting. From their point of view, you are obstructing their means of fraudulently milking their customers, thus they will do anything in their power to be rid of you. This means finding any small technicality to stop you from doing it - if it means calling out the council about a litter complaint while their solicitors are waiting for the restraining order to come through, so be it.

If this kind of practice is good enough for political parties, charities, interest groups, promoting any kind of event at all!

Most of these groups usually get permission and supervision from local authorites. There's also a good reason why they stand in the middle of the road, not right outside individual shopfronts.

If you really wanted to withstand any sort of action, you'd need to be there in such force as to overwhelm anyone else - we're talking Greenham Common numbers here. Even this would expose you to action from the banks, since if there were 12 or more of you, the bank would be entitled to report you for rioting!

[CJ&theBOS]

Originally Posted by meagain

Whoever's leafleting. From their point of view, you are obstructing their means of fraudulently milking their customers, thus they will do anything in their power to be rid of you. This means finding any small technicality to stop you from doing it - if it means calling out the council about a litter complaint while their solicitors are waiting for the restraining order to come through, so be it.

a restraining order????? ehh??? on what basis?? Uhmm i dont think so. Unless the demonstration is unlawful then it has every right to peacably protest/inform.

Bear in mind that the banks can already close accounts with utter impunity. Your response seems to be that it is not adviseable to hand out leaflets because this will enrage and annoy the banks yet further. I would suggest that we are already at war with the banks (asking for money back and issuing court proceedings against them kinda sends a signal to them dont you think?) and instead of passifying them we should be attacking them on all fronts (legal fronts of course )

cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!!!!

Most of these groups usually get permission and supervision from local authorites. There's also a good reason why they stand in the middle of the road, not right outside individual shopfronts.

If you really wanted to withstand any sort of action, you'd need to be there in such force as to overwhelm anyone else - we're talking Greenham Common numbers here. Even this would expose you to action from the banks, since if there were 12 or more of you, the bank would be entitled to report you for rioting!

Yes i think the bank would be able to get the police/council representatives to remove the demonstration/reject the demonstration if it was literally on their doorstep but if its not anywhere near them then shouldnt be anything they can do about it. (provided the 'demonstration' itself has went through the proper setup procedural channels)

since if there were 12 or more of you, the bank would be entitled to report you for rioting

not a chance in hell. Which law is this which allows the police to intervene and arrest peaceful protesters? There were 5000 + of us at the G8 marches in Gleneagles last year...police didnt arrest any peaceful demonstrators there...

http://community.foe.co.uk/resource/...%20uk%20law%22

Your Rights: The Right of peaceful protest: Static demonstrations rallies and assemblies: Static demonstrations and assemblies

[djdavep]

I can get 1000's of flyers printed and sent out to members if they want it will cost but its cheaper than printing them at home. If your interested just let me kno and i'll sort them out could do with a generic design 55mm x 85mm then i can get 10k for 99 quid full colour double sided.

Not trying to sell or anything but it'll make it easier for everybody.

[djdavep]

thats the size of a credit card by the way lol

[jonni2bad]

Once again, let me repeat it in case anyone did not see the original message...

This 'idea' has been discussed before and the site owners would prefer users did not do it. We can't force anyone, but that is the state of play at the moment.

I think you'd all be fine to put something through the doors of your neighbours though - making sure all the people around you have at least had a chance to hear about the site.

[GaryH]

Originally Posted by jonni2bad

This 'idea' has been discussed before and the site owners would prefer users did not do it. We can't force anyone, but that is the state of play at the moment.

Fair enough. I agree totally that we must do all we can to uphold the reputation of the site - public opinion of us is important and ANYTHING that could possibily play into the hands of the banks should be avoided at all costs.

[CJ&theBOS]

Do you guys have car display stickers? promoting CAG? and the fight against the banks?

[jonni2bad]

It is one of the ideas that have been discussed - we have some prices but other events got in the way, as usual.

I believe it will be revisited soon, along with T-Shirts etc

[meagain]

Originally Posted by CJ&theBOS

a restraining order????? ehh??? on what basis??

You carry out a protest about the bank's policies outside their front door, and they're entitled to be annoyed. They can claim slander (even libel if they lay their hands on a flyer), and get a temporary injunction restraining you from that protest until the matter is settled. Because the nature of slander and libel is itself accusatory, the defendant has to prove the guilt of the claimant, not the other way around.

but if its not anywhere near them then shouldnt be anything they can do about it.

See the bit about libel above.

not a chance in hell. Which law is this which allows the police to intervene and arrest peaceful protesters?

Public Order Act 1986. If there's more than 12 of you, the bank can say you're assulting their business and report it as a riot to 999. Doesn't necessarily mean that it is a riot, but they would at least be able to accuse you of such. From their perspective, you are infringing their right to peacefully carry on business. In the interest in preserving the peace, even if the police agree with your cause, they will probably ask you to disperse anyway. If you just moved on, the police would probably then detain you on public order charges.

Remember, even if you can't get anyone else, you must keep the police on your side.

	Are you letting your bank keep your money Are you giving away thousands of pounds?? Many people aren't claiming all of the money they are entitled to when they make their bank charges claims. You have been forced to pay unfair bank charges. Have you forgotten that your bank has charged you inteest on those charges? If you are overdrawn and the bank owes you charges - then your overdraft is made up of charges - money which you bank owes you. Yet you are paying interest to the bank - on your own money!!! Follow this link to see the discussions on this. You might even double th size of your claim.