Information Commissioners Office

[Bookworm]

One can not helping feeling despondent... Would it REALLY take that long to decide whether it's a relevant filing sytem or not? Come on, any idiot knows the answer, and yet, the supposed professionals at Information Commissioners Office can't decide?

I hope this is just friday afternoon tiredness kicking in, but I have a feeling we are being quietly stiched up in the corridors of power....

[Glenn UK]

Bookworm

I am sure you will know that I give this a lot of thought too as do other mebers of the forum.

Its difficult to read whats going on but please believe me when I tell you that every effort is being made to provide the Information Commissioners Office with information to support our view and hopefully give the right decision.

Glenn

[Karnevil]

so anyone know any more about this Information Commissioners Office expert witness report abbey seem to be proffering as part of their defence in a Data Protection Act claim ?

[reclamationproclamation]

Not sure if this is a sign of the outcome or anything but I received a full set of microfiche statements from Abbey this morning about three weeks after complaining to the information commissioners office and 5 days after I got a reply from them.
At least I don't have pay a court fee for data protection non compliance (which I should have done at the same time as my complaint to the Information Commissioners Office but I was waiting for their verdict on Abbey).

[Glenn UK]

Reclaim,

You never know what going on with the Abbey.

Still I dont think the outcome will be long in coming, hopefully it will lead to everyone getting their fiche sent out soon.

Glenn

[pugsley]

SAW THIS IN TODAYS DAILY MAIL PAGE 49 mentions this website and talks to Marc Gander

the info comm is investigating whether the banks are allowed to do this (not give details of charges because of microfiche argument) It will make a decision this week, A spokesman for Abbey says; `We had an informal discussion with the info commissioner earlier this year and were told that our filing system did not come under the Data Protection Act. Now it appeas it may have changed it's mind'

[give_me_it_back]

"Now it appears they may have changed their mind.."! Sounds encouraging!!

[reclamationproclamation]

We'll see if others sudden;y recieve their microfiche statements.

Is it possible Abbey have asked the Information Commissioners Office to delay their announcement in order to deal with this, take on extra staff etc.

???

[give_me_it_back]

Or to take their new solicitors out to long lunches...

[Karnevil]

Originally Posted by bankfodder

The Information Commissioner has conducted an investigation and has decided that Abbey is breaching its statutory obligations.
The Abbey microfiche system is a "relevant filing system".

If you have been waiting longer than 40 days for disclosure or have been refused, send a 7 day Letter before action to Abbey requiring immediate disclosure failing which you will go to court without any further notice.

See sticky at top of abbey forum

[lickthewallfatboy]

result-I hope this wipes out all messing about fom all companies who use this argument!!

[pugsley]

I suddenly am getting all my statement, looks like I timed taking on Abbey just right lol

[Glenn UK]

Well its time once again to thank those who provided information for the CAG to send to the Information Commissioners Office.

I was very sceptical about how the information would be used if at all. Since this thread started the CAG has been developing a relationship with the Information Commissioners Office and in particular the people responsible for dealing with the Abbey investigation.

I cannot be absolutely certain, but I have been told that the information that has been provided by forum members, either directly or indirectly was very useful to the Information Commissioners Office.

They will be visiting Barclaycard shortly, the 19th as I recall. I cannot be sure of the outcome but I can guess.

I suspect that now there will be some specimen cases by both Abbey and Barclaycard to see if the courts agree with the Information Commissioners Office.

Ultimately this isn't the end, its not the beginning of the end, it is however, the end of the beginning. Didn't someone famous say something like that once!!!

Lets hope the opposition face the same fate now as the opposition did when those words were originally spoken.

Glenn

PS what next? OFT anybody?

[meagain]

Originally Posted by Glenn UK

Ultimately this isn't the end, its not the beginning of the end, it is however, the end of the beginning. Didn't someone famous say something like that once!!!

Probably.

Originally Posted by Churchill, 1942

This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

Lets hope the opposition face the same fate now as the opposition did when those words were originally spoken.

Blimey. Having to put up with the Americans wanting to take over operations and claim all the credit is a fate I wouldn't wish upon anyone.

More from the same now. The last two sentences are particularly symbolic.

Originally Posted by Churchill, 1941

Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

[reclamationproclamation]

This is great news for all, well done Glen.

[Bookworm]

Any news on the Barclaycard visit? Or will it take another 3 weeks for it to filter down to us?

[Glenn UK]

I cannot be certain but the rumnour i heard was that it was likely that the same letter that will be sent to Abbey would probably be sent to Barclaycard.

I understand that the Information Commissioners Office is likley to issue new guidance in light of the change in position with respect to the fiche systems.

IUncidentally it is nt a fiche issue solely as I understand but is wider than that.

HTH

Glenn