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Old 3rd June 2008, 17:36   #41 (permalink)
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I have done that before but the buyer complained to ebay and they withdrew the item.
Yes but that was when you had the option of leaving negative feedback. If they remove that option from sellers & think all's fair in love & ebay & should they complain I would in no uncertain manner tell them where to get off. Simple allow me to respond or be sued for defamation
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Old 3rd June 2008, 17:39   #42 (permalink)
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True and I did leave negative feedback at the time so wasn't so bothered. You are right that we should have the right to reply to negative feedback.
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There is an option to respond to feedback left from buyers but Ive not tried it yet under the new system also it does not alter your feedback score which is what buyers would see first and many would not know how to make the various clicks with mouse to find out if there were any replies
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The offending member would simply ask eBay to remove the comment......that's what my nightmare buyer did........and eBay obliged!!
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Unfortunately it is totally weighted in favour of the buyers now. Not much anyone can do about it though. Just be ware of who is bidding and if they look too dodgy then pull the sale and ban them from bidding on any more of your items.
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I did used to leave positive feedback to buyers as soon as they had paid until a few bad buyers went on to leave me negative for stupid reasons like it was a day later that they thought it would be or it hadn't been polished .
Believe me there are far more dodgy buyers than sellers on ebay and once they realise they have the upper hand with regards to feedback it is the sellers who will be held to ransom.
lets face it the feedback rules are pathetic and where pathetic thet rely on human integrity and we all know how good that is.time for a rethink ebay.
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I must say though that after over 500 sales and at least 100 purchases I have not had many bad experiences.
It's the minority of idiots that spoil it for the rest.
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Precisely as in red. They can withdraw any sum they choose ................. & it's why I won't under any circumstances verify my bank account with PayPal ........ effectively it's a licence for them to steal every penny in your account & there's nothing you can do apart from demanding a refund which as some here will already know can take forever
Cancel the DD with your bank.
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Precisely as in red. They can withdraw any sum they choose ................. & it's why I won't under any circumstances verify my bank account with PayPal ........ effectively it's a licence for them to steal every penny in your account & there's nothing you can do apart from demanding a refund which as some here will already know can take forever
Can you explain this please?

My bank account is verified with Paypal but no DD is present with them, I even just checked my online banking.

And it was only two months ago my ebay account was suspended for not paying a fee. Why wasn't that just taken from my bank account?
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Yes, and this is what I did with my previous bank account but it is still marked verified.
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Yes, and this is what I did with my previous bank account but it is still marked verified.
Ebay has realised that you have cancelled the DD. This will become apparent once they try to take money off you.
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Just because PayPal have a bank account verified doesn't mean that PayPal have established a Direct Debit to your account.

PayPal will only establish a DD if you have selected your verified bank account as a funding source, and not a place for funds to be withdrawn to.
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[quote=smutley;1550331]Im a bit worried, just sold a mobile to guy in Hungary, he bid at the last minute. When I read his feedback was slightly horrified, 8 negs and 1 neutral but his score only showed 4 negs! Some of the comments implied that he tries it on saying goods not received and then tries to claim back through paypal. He has now paid me, but I am worried about leaving the money in Paypal (was saving it for holiday in July). I m posting the phone today, but will pay extra to have signed for delivery.

Update and some advise needed: Email today from buyer in Hungary - please read below, the mobile was in full working order (only been used for a month) it was an upgrade (on contract) from O2, I dont have the paperwork he is asking for, but if I did, dont know if it would be relevant to him... sort of think he might be trying it on and will make claim to get money refunded through paypal... any suggestions on the reply I should give?

Dear Jenny,

Many thanks for sending me this great phone and please help me in the following issue.

As I received the N95 yesterday I realized that the camera ZOOM/VOICE button on the side of the phone does not work. It probably broken into or something slipped away there. As I know Nokia provides 2 year full guarantee to handle these kind of mechanical problems and I have managed to contact with them to ask to repair this button. The only thing is needed is the Guarantee paper of the phone and a copy of the invoice printed when you bought it at O2. Please help me in this as this phone would be a present and cannot solve the problem without the Guarantee paper.

I do not really want to bother or hurt anyone this is the reason I ask for your help to send me this papers.


Many Thanks for your help in advance,
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funny how Ebay will protect the buyers from negative feedback, but they wont protect you all from the spread of HIV and the AIDS virus.

by this i mean they will let the sale of tattoo equipment to be sold to people that are not even tattooists. working from home. no clinical control what so ever, no ultrasonic, no autoclave and no clinical waste management control in place. putting the binmen/women at risk of infection.

ebay dont care we tried to petition them but no luck.

if they are happy to help AIDS and HIV spread across the land they aint going to worry about a little bit of feedback.
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You were very brave to have delt with an Hungarian buyer in the first place, I would have cancelled his bid. Mobile phones and laptops make up the bulk of cons on ebay.

I would definately withdraw any funds you have in Paypal.

Am I too sceptical? I don't think so, once the con has happened you will never get your money back and someone far away will be laughing that he as scammed another Brit.
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Re: Hungarian Buyer

Thanks for reply conniff, I have withdrawn all funds from my paypal account. I think I will reply along the lines that the mobile was in full working order when sold, that I do not have any O2 invoice etc., as it was a present to me and suggest that he pays to have it repaired (if in fact is does have a fault which I doubt very much).
If in the event that he tries to get his money back through paypal, I presume that paypal will contact me prior to taking money from my bank account.
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