Just a reminder

Gertie100 · 2nd April 2008, 14:25

Not starting a petition as such but:

Please remember to vote in the local elections in May.

Whilst we know that we are all stuck between a rock and a hard place with the political parties, the only tool we have currently to show the current establishment that we are not putting up with their incompetence and wonderful ability to drive this country into the ground, is to vote.

Before everyone jumps on me and tells me that the alternatives are no better, until we show "them" that if we are not happy we will vote against them and get rid of them (and do it to the subsequent lot etc etc regardless of party...) every political party will simply ride rough-shod over the law abiding, tax paying citizens of this countries.

And yes, I did look into running for our local council, however having to take a pay drop of £20k and still pay my bills doesn't add up so its not an option!

Thanks for reading!

dave · 2nd April 2008, 14:47

How about encouraging people to spoil their vote?

That effectively sends the message that you've ticked the "none of the above" box.

Gertie100 · 2nd April 2008, 15:22

Ok - so taking that to extremes, no one votes (I know it won't happen) but if it did what would the outcome be? I mean literally, what would be the procedure?

wino · 2nd April 2008, 15:34

I know some people don't vote and that is their right. I do feel however that instead of me complaining about things by voting is the one constructive thing I can do to try and ammend things. Like they say its your voice, your vote.
Now which lying party of clowns am I going to vote for this year?

dave · 2nd April 2008, 15:46

No, not, not voting. No vote doesn't get counted, spoiling a vote does and sends a message.

wino · 2nd April 2008, 16:00

When are the elections by the way 1st or 8th?

Gertie100 · 2nd April 2008, 16:52

So applying the spoilt vote to my question - if all votes counted were spoilt who would be elected?

wino · 2nd April 2008, 17:03

Don't look at me I don't want the job! :o

Conniff · 2nd April 2008, 17:13

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Originally Posted by Gertie100

Ok - so taking that to extremes, no one votes (I know it won't happen) but if it did what would the outcome be? I mean literally, what would be the procedure?

Could never happen - there will always be some votes, themselves and their families.

Also a 'spoilt vote' is not the right way to go as it could let in who you don't want.

If two people had 10 votes each and you spoil one, that is the same as two votes lost.
Your spoilt vote will mean that one of the people gets 9 votes and the other 10 whereas if you used that vote, one would get 9 and the other 11 so a more decisive victory and less chance of a recount demand.

Gertie100 · 2nd April 2008, 17:29

So, it is best to vote then!

Tom87 · 3rd April 2008, 00:12

I turned 18 a couple of days after a general election. It was the most frustrating experience of my life. It annoys me so much that people who are lucky enough to vote, and what's more, in one of the most infuencial countries in the world, are either too lazy or too stubborn to do so and just waste the opportunity. While people have the right not to vote, they should seriously consider what they are doing. Nothing will improve if you refuse to vote.

nicsussex · 3rd April 2008, 00:42

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Originally Posted by Tom87

Nothing will improve if you refuse to vote.

Oh to still be so young and idealistic!

Tom87 · 3rd April 2008, 02:25

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Originally Posted by nicsussex

Oh to still be so young and idealistic!

I know one vote might not make a difference, but anyone who refuses to vote and then moans about the MP who wins their constituency has only got themself to blame for refusing to vote for anyone else to stop them.

dave · 3rd April 2008, 11:16

But then you have to ask yourself why there is about a 40% turn out in the UK, yet about a 98% turnout in France.

In France, there is diversity between the parties - they range from extreme left to extreme right.

In the UK they range from slightly right of middle to slightly right of middle. They literally ARE the same.

Bookworm · 3rd April 2008, 13:17

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In France, there is diversity between the parties - they range from extreme left to extreme right.

Not so you'd notice these days, when even the lefties had to choose between the right and the even more right. THEN they got off their a*ses and vote to stop the more extreme-right getting in, but that wouldn't have happened if they had voted in the first round and voted for the left candidate(s).

The above is the perfect example as to why Tom87 and Gertie are quite correct.

I guarantee that next election, the turnout will be a lot higher than it has been for a long, long time. By then of course, Sarko will have milked the country dry and have destroyed 50 or 100 years of social advances.

Gertie100 · 3rd April 2008, 14:07

*crash*

that's me picking myself up off the floor!!!!

(runs around the room shouting "bookie thinks I'm right!!!!!" very loudly)

JonCris · 3rd April 2008, 14:11

I'll vote for the Devil or even the Monster Raving Loony Party if it meant getting rid of this shower of self serving bums

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