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Old 29th July 2008, 15:32   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

This is my first post, seen lots of data, but would appreciate help in finding out a few specific things - please forgive me if these have already been answered - just point me to the right spot and I'll go quietly!

I'm about to start an attempt to reclaim charges from the NatWest.
I am a Sole Trader, with an Advantage Business Account.

Can I use the standard S.A.R - (Subject Access Request)? I don't have an accountant and have moved 3 times in the last 6 years, so it will take some time to gather all the statements together. Do I have to word it differently?
- Same question for the Preliminary approach for repayment letter?

Have just read jonnie2bad's guide to business claims - can anyone expand on this at the beginning?Unfortunately, following the decision in OFT v Abbey and others 2008, it is no longer advisable to reclaim charges from business accounts.

Thanks for your help and good luck to everyone.
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Old 29th July 2008, 19:09   #2 (permalink)
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It is to do with the Law surrounding penalty charges. I will bump this so others can respond to your query
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Old 30th August 2008, 11:21   #3 (permalink)
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I've been busy reading posts and threads and decided to send off an S.A.R - (Subject Access Request), figuring there's nothing to lose. To my surprise the bundle of statements for the last six years arrived within 1 week (the £10 cheque has not been cashed or returned) Just finished adding to spreadsheet and find that charges amount to just over £2200 all referral fees or unpaid DD's & SO's, before interest. With all the successes of business claims recently - I now feel more fired up to make a claim!
Am I right in thinking that the wording of the letter needs to be changed in light of the test case?
Going to do some reading up on interest calculations - anyone got a link?
Thanks, I'll keep you posted.
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Old 30th August 2008, 19:15   #4 (permalink)
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Welcome to the site.Its not unusual for Banks to return the S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) charge-I was given mine back by Barclays.
The Template for Business accounts is still valid since the ruling on whether the charges are unfair within common law has yet to be ruled on.Additionally it is not clear if Historical charges are recognised as unfair-the Judge in the test case has reserved judgement until a later date.
I suggest having a read through some recent threads in the business claims section.-in fact I will move your thread there now.
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Thanks for your help - I will continue reading - still a little unsure of the significance of 'historical charges' - do I need to know when my t&c's were changed? Does this make a difference to what years I should be claiming for?
My account is still live and has been running since 1987 - is it advisable to ask for statements going beyond 6 years?

For anyone else struggling with calculating the interest bit - I found steven4064's Interest Tutorial in the Bank Templates Library very useful - Everything is much clearer now.

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Hi yes the crux appears to be this as you say.Older charges certainly had different terms and conditions.I understand some of the banks are declining to send pre 6 year statements-I dont know the position with NW/RBS perhaps YB can shed some light on that.I know of 3 claims that have been settled out of court that involved pre 6 charges recently.Barclays keep statement Archives for 12 years and I was able to go back to 99 with mine.Its an ongoing claim-which does involve limitation arguements.
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Update - NatWest have cashed the £10 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) cheque!
I think I will stick to the 6 year claim for now and look into pre 6 year charges at a later date, if that's allowed.
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Almost ready to send preliminary letter to bank - would it be advisable to get another account up and running first?
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Hi, NatWest signed for Preliminary Request for Refund on 30th Sept. No Response - Is it time to send Second Letter?
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Update:
Sent off LBA and have just received an offer, which is about 2/3rds of my claim (tempting!), but I think i'll send rejection letter but accept as partial settlement.
Is this just a random offer, or have they got some calculations about which charges they are refunding?
Has anyone managed to get a full settlement from NatWest after rejecting their offer, or will I have to go to court?
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Hi thereis - slightly surprised that you got an offer at all! Maybe the RBS Group have been working behind the scenes and are beginning to feel that they can't make a case, so are possibly getting into a damage limitation exercise. My personal view (non-legal) is to keep going for the full amount.

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