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Benefits, Tax Credits and Minimum Wage Having problems with benefits / deductions, or want to discuss entitlement etc. this is the place. Other matters include Tax Credit issues and also advice for those on / or below minimum wage.


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Old 28th August 2008, 23:21   #1 (permalink)
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hi all
i am being charged in a court for benifit fraud for over 3 years at a total of 25 thousand
charge one is 8 thousand wich i am paying back
charge 2 is 8 thousand and charge 3 is for 9 thousand
i admited this under a caution to the dhss
i am now working legaly and off all benifits apart from working tax credits wich i never new i was entittled to . does anyone know what could happen to me i worried sick now thanks all x
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Old 28th August 2008, 23:26   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: i commited benifit fraud

Try this page 76
http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov...compendium.pdf
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Old 28th August 2008, 23:30   #3 (permalink)
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I have made an error and I apologise. The link is for 2003 compendium. There may have been some updates that I have not read
Sentencing Guidelines website-Guidelines-Other guidelines-Court of Appeal
That was my original source
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Old 28th August 2008, 23:30   #4 (permalink)
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forgot to ad i wont and never will have this money how can i repay this and if i was sentanced to a jail term do you still have to repay the money or is the debt stopped, also if they take me to court under a procceds of crime how do they get the money if i have none xx
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Old 28th August 2008, 23:30   #5 (permalink)
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I have made an error and I apologise. The link is for 2003 compendium. There may have been some updates that I have not read
Sentencing Guidelines website-Guidelines-Other guidelines-Court of Appeal
That was my original source
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Old 28th August 2008, 23:36   #6 (permalink)
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You need to be honest when you go to court, including circumstances as to why you claimed what you were not entitled to. Explain everything and be honest. I will see if I can get someone here who might know, because I do not know the answers to the other questions you are asking. When are you in court(maybe approximate, ie within a week/month etc,etc so as not to be too specific)?
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Old 28th August 2008, 23:39   #7 (permalink)
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hi iv been and lawyer got it adjorned till 3 sept then hes wrote to me and siad ill get another date hes had it ajorned again
he told me this at first meet and said hell get it for around xmas time and that would give me a chance to get the money
hes living in another planet .
iv had enough now as my dads terminal i want this done now and not at xmas when things might get worse thanks all xxx
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Old 28th August 2008, 23:57   #8 (permalink)
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I was recently told of a case where someone was actually working for himself and had a very successful business and was claiming benefits for 4 years. When he was cautioned and, because he had been very co-operative, he walked away with community service.

It would seem that the key is being co-operative and honest and remorseful.
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Yes any sentence will reflect your cooperation and admissions early on.It would also take into account of your ability to repay.
The Court will also be looking to see how you used the money-that will be a mitigating factor.
Not all cases require the overpayments to be repaid-but there is almost always costs awarded.
Your best bet is to keep this in the Magistrates Court...
Its quite rare to see custodial sentences handed out in most cases for a first offence-there now appears to be a greater use of community service orders.
Have a look at this-its a list of cases and the results from Wrexham-and is soley Benefits Fraud related.

Maybe you should consider asking them to withdraw charge 1 since you are already paying that back.


WCBC: Previous Prosecutions Obtained by the Anti-Fraud Team
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Halifax ; First and easiest of the lot.
Royal Bank Scot; 1 done 1 stayed
Telewest Broadband.......Won ..after 2 bounced cheques and them running out of time.
Barclays Business;.1 won Round 2 limitation hearing.7th.Jan 2009
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Swinton Insurance-LBA sent.

Christmas has gone but......the mission goes on.
Wishing all a great year in 2009-and hope everyone gets ALL their charges back..and justice for any other issues that come your way.






Advice offered by MARTIN3030 is without predjudice and is for your judgement as to whether to take it.
You should seek the assistance or hire of a solicitor or other paid professional if in doubt ie; Cobbett Ltd.

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Old 20th November 2008, 01:44   #10 (permalink)
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i commited benefit fraud when my wife died and hada nervous breakdown then my children put into fostercare they called me into the office and i explained in a flood of tears that yes i was still claiming for the children even though they weren't living with me but i was still buying things as if they were like clothes for them and stuff liek that it ended they understood and im paying it back out of my working dla the best thing is to be honest and also bring up the fact about your father being terminal etc and how things are affecting you .
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