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Old 5th July 2008, 21:43   #1 (permalink)
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My son is at Uni and his Girl friend is at college they are both now on their summer breaks so both their monthly grant payments stop until next term.
My wife is on I.B and I care for her we are having to keep both my son and his G/F are there any temporary benifit options for them.
My sons G/F was on I.S but has just reached her 18th birthday and as been told that will now have to stop.
His G/F can't claim as a lodger because anything she gets for that will be deducted off our benift.
Is there a solution the landlord could arrange I.E subletting a single room etc.
We can't afford to keep them for free the money just won't stretch that far.
I suggested my son go sign for JSA but he says he could get done for it anyone know the law on that ?.

any help will be usefull

Thanx
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Old 5th July 2008, 21:51   #2 (permalink)
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My son is at Uni and his Girl friend is at college they are both now on their summer breaks so both their monthly grant payments stop until next term.
My wife is on I.B and I care for her we are having to keep both my son and his G/F are there any temporary benifit options for them.
My sons G/F was on I.S but has just reached her 18th birthday and as been told that will now have to stop.
His G/F can't claim as a lodger because anything she gets for that will be deducted off our benift.
Is there a solution the landlord could arrange I.E subletting a single room etc.
We can't afford to keep them for free the money just won't stretch that far.
I suggested my son go sign for JSA but he says he could get done for it anyone know the law on that ?.

any help will be usefull

Thanx
Her 18th birthday or 19th? If she was entitled to IS, whilst in education then this should continue at least until her 19th birthday and depending on her course sometimes longer.
I beleive your son could claim JSA, for the summer providing he is looking for a temporary job until he returns to Uni, but I am not sure about that, best option would be to ask at the Job Centre.
Is there any reason they cannot get jobs during the holidays?
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Old 6th July 2008, 16:13   #3 (permalink)
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My son was promised a job by the company he worked for last X-mas but as I could have warned him had he let me know last X-mas what they said he would have realised he was just another cheap X-mas temp.
I will give him his dues he is out every day asking at shops and supermarkets
but we are a small place and work is very hard to come by.
I know it's not a nice thing to do but I have told him to apply for full time jobs not letting them know he will be leaving in 8 weeks or so, I hate deciept but we have to live.
His G/friend has to constantly travel too and fro from here to Dorset as she is undergoing medical treatment on her Jaw and naturaly only feels comfy with the team it all started with ( She originates from Dorset the college course she wanted is here. We as adults refused to allowe a young adult miss their chance at an education they realy wanted her parents are pratts to say the least and do nothing to support or help the poor girl if I must struggle to educate her then so be it.
Thanx for the I.S info I had a feeling about the age of 19 but she argued that college friends told her 18 so cheers on that.
By the way she offered all her I.S to us ; I can't do that she needs to have money to get back for her treatment and to go out once in a while it may not be a lot but to make her happy we take only £10 a week off her.
I really wnated to know my sond options so I can kick him up the ass and get him in gear.

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P.s sorry about the spelling lol not my best attribute
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Old 6th July 2008, 16:41   #4 (permalink)
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No worries about the spelling.
I would suggest that your son goes to the job centre tomorrow and sorts out some benefits, at least in the short term, whilst he is looking for a job.
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Old 7th July 2008, 19:56   #5 (permalink)
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As you say your son is at uni between terms and is or has been in receipt of a student grant ... then it's very unlikely they are elligible for JSA or any benefit as they are returning ie full student. To be elligible for JSA you must be looking for work on a full time basis. For every full time student it is the same. So, technically no you are not elligible to claim it between terms.

When you complete the form - which is usually done over the telephone now, but you CAN ask for a written application form; don't let the JCP staff fob you off, which they will try and do, but you can complete a written form - they will ask you and go into depth on your circumstances. It will just take a little longer, though, as DWP also uses the evil call centre now to save on money. Plus, they'd automatically ask what you've been doing for the 12 months or less eg whilst being a student. So, he'd have to tell them anyway and what his plans were. Also, there is a good chance they will check with the uni whether he is intending to return next term.

Here is an extract from a place your son can go to to get further advice on this. It's called Connexions, specifically aimed at younger people it's like a CAB aimed at that age range but much more:

Who is eligible for Jobseekers Allowance?
Jobseekers Allowance is available for those over the age of 18 who are capable and available for work and actively seeking a job.
A Jobseeker’s Agreement is agreed with an adviser at the local Job Centre, covering the type of job you are looking for and how you will try to get work. You will have regular follow up interviews to discuss your job search progress. Your benefit depends on you proving that you are actively looking for work and doing as you agreed in your Jobseeker’s Agreement.
Full-time students are not usually able to claim Jobseeker’s Allowance. Part-time students may be able to claim if they are available for and actively seeking work. They must also be willing to change the hours they study or give up their course immediately to start a job.
16 and 17 year olds are not usually entitled to Jobseeker’s Allowance as the government has guaranteed a Youth Training Place to all. However, certain groups are able to claim. These include:
  • People with a partner and children
  • People with disabilities
  • people who have just left care or prison
  • Young people forced to live away from home.
He can either take the risk, apply ... then get caught out at the application stage ... Given the structure of the DWP right now, not a good idea. It will have repurcussions for any future claim as well. Or find out where your local Connexions centre is. His student union, at the least, should have info on one as they work closely in conjunction with local universities and colleges.

The general consensus - and unless DWP has altered radically since I was a uni student, which I doubt; in fact, they've tightened up, made things harder - is no, you can't claim between term times. Whilst on that subject, though, it doesn't nor hasn't stopped teachers from claiming in the summer breaks an array of benefits ... makes you think, doesn't it? However, if your son pays a visit or finds out from the place I mentioned ...

Connexions may also be able to offer or suggest other financial aids in the short term between terms.

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Old 7th July 2008, 20:01   #6 (permalink)
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This may help answer some of your queries about JSA/term break students:

students job seekers allowance - MoneySavingExpert.com Forums
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Who is eligible for Jobseekers Allowance?
Jobseekers Allowance is available for those over the age of 18 who are capable and available for work and actively seeking a job.
A Jobseeker’s Agreement is agreed with an adviser at the local Job Centre, covering the type of job you are looking for and how you will try to get work. You will have regular follow up interviews to discuss your job search progress. Your benefit depends on you proving that you are actively looking for work and doing as you agreed in your Jobseeker’s Agreement.
Full-time students are not usually able to claim Jobseeker’s Allowance. Part-time students may be able to claim if they are available for and actively seeking work. They must also be willing to change the hours they study or give up their course immediately to start a job.
16 and 17 year olds are not usually entitled to Jobseeker’s Allowance as the government has guaranteed a Youth Training Place to all. However, certain groups are able to claim. These include:
  • People with a partner and children
  • People with disabilities
  • people who have just left care or prison
  • Young people forced to live away from home.
Can I ask where you got that from, was it the main Connexions Website?
At least the part about care leavers being able to claim JSA under 18 is incorrect.
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