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22nd June 2008, 17:03
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetnsexyenglish Mine where actually Naratriptan (Naramig) been given a repeat perscritpion and dr's appointment on 30th so that possibley I can be examined/tests if need be. | That just about sums up the state of NHS! Well, hopefully, you get the 'tested' followed by an effective remedy. Nobody should suffer the way you have! I used to get 'weekend migraines' - the minute I returned home from work on the Friday which lasted right up until bedtime on Sunday night, miraculously gone when I woke on Monday morning!? They were bad enough but I just cannot imagine enduring one for a whole week! All the very best. Keep us posted. |
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23rd June 2008, 12:50
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| | Gold Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED Thank you Stoned, Bezzer and Help48, I took some time off dealing with all my problems due to the migraines thought I make a fresh start Monday morning though rest isn't really an option with 3 kids
Thank you Help48 you have offered some interesting info and I will look into it as I have put in my formal complaint to DWP and the ombudsman sent my complaint to the LA but I have not heard anything.
The HO did say I should try to offer something if just £3 so I will try but was advised that there is a Discretionary Housing Payment I can apply for so I am going to do a search and give them a call. And also I have been told there may be something in the Children's Act 1975 which may entitle me to funds/support and I should contact Social Services. (all this info I have obtained while I was supposed to be resting  ).
As for the NHS they are a joke but you have to take what you can get, and hopefully this can be alleviated for once and for all as this is more than a drag on my nerves and really would like to know what its like to be pain free.
I'm going to take things a bit slower though just so I can try and give my mind time to rest as the amount of sleep I have been getting is barely enough to get by on and may be a contributing factor as I have not had a good nights sleep in a very long time.
And thank you Stoned, if I can help anyone from my thread that's enough for me as I wouldn't wish this on my enemy, my youngest is dying for some mommy time but from monday to friday I have been consumed with this and then on the weekends is housework and half the time I am not even fit to play with her because I'm grouchy from the migraines because I don't want any noise
So bare with me and I will update if I get any news progress or info.
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23rd June 2008, 13:50
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| | Gold Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED Update: Spoke with citizen's advice as instructed by MP and am going on Wednesday (I better remember to bring my packed Lunch  ), and also have appointment with the HB who deal with Discretionary Payments on the 26th June.
So will let you know how they go. |
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23rd June 2008, 18:15
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| | Gold Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED Update: (say's a lot about my resting  )Had a surprise visit from my HO, lol Help48 think he got read the riot act  as he came baring a referral to the CAB.
It would appear that the letter I sent to the MP along with a letter from him has made its rounds through the bosses/managers etc and he was issued with the order to come and fill in the form in order to obtain help from the CAB which is supposed to be quicker than the usual queue up and wait to be assessed version currently on offer. Also he offered to refer me to a Tenancy Sustainment Officer, and basically advised me all action has to be halted as per MP's instruction while they are to offer all forms of help to sort this situation out with my rent arrears & HO benefit...again he came offering advise of claiming income support which I have again refused as I can not deal with the stress and so far IS has been more stressful than helpful.
I don't even think government & DWP/LA are even bothered by the fact.....2007/08 money paid by SLC would have been based on 2007 Budget, since the Budget 2008 increased Social Security Payments (DWP/CB/TAX CREDITS even Milk Tokens went up  )yet students are living on money that was set from the previous years budget. News reports have since highlighted the credit crunch and rising inflation in regards to benefits we are worse off with rising costs of food/fuel. How the hell can DWP/HB sit and assume the money students are given to live off should last and be enough for students, especially students with families or as in my case one parent students with families bills, debts and commitments with no other form of help when the 2007/08 payments have not taken into consideration the credit crunch and rising inflation?
Its bad enough DWP are stupid enough to assume that single parent families who study are not entitled to help if you qualify for LEA however they are looking at the money as a whole with nothing else taken into consideration least of all what every person is experiencing now huge energy & food bills. |
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23rd June 2008, 18:39
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED Hi Sweet,
I'm absolutely delighted for you! You should never have been placed in this position if the HO had been doing their job.
I would still advise though that you maintain a stance with your Housing Provider in regards to you making a complaint. It will be somewhat laborious, but ultimately it will give you certain protection throughout the rest of this matter. Also, when you have ANY dealings with your HO, make sure they are committed to writing. The HO will have to prove that they acted correctly, so you need paper trail. After each meeting, they should send you a letter outlining what was agreed. That way, you are fully protected.
Tenancy Sustainment Officer eh? Sounds like you've got them all running about like headless chickens now!
The one thing that most decent RSL's, (Registered Social Landlords), tend to agree on is that eviction should be the LAST RESORT. They are also monitored by Audit Commission on how many evictions they process etc and how those cases were dealt with by the RSL. Don't get me wrong though, some RSL's are performance targeted by their bosses to get evictions, particularly in regards to arrears, as this pushes up their productivity percentage....looks good to the Board!
In the meantime though, I'm really pleased you got the help you needed. No matter how late in the day it may seem, there is usually a solution. I also enjoyed being able to pass on some of my experience as I miss my Housing job terribly.........strange as it may seem. It's rewarding if it's done properly though.
Hope the migraine's easier tonight.
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23rd June 2008, 19:25
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| | Gold Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED On top of everything else a social worker has called me twice for an interview regarding my son, apparently my details have been passed to them, and the time she started contacting me has been since I have taken my son out of school in order to home school him until september when he starts secondary school.
He is 10 yrs old, and an averaged pain in the ass troublesome annoying 10 yr old boy who happened to touch a fellow pupils breast at school for this he was given three weeks punishment over a four week period which at a time when I was already stressed out I asked they expel him.
They choose not to but from the 6th may wanted him to have 1 week inclusion then be treated as normal for his SAT'S then two weeks exclusion. Even an education social worker has said the situation was handled badly as yes even this sort of action regardless of the fact that they are just kids has to be taken seriously but the headmistress should not have done a bunny hop stop and start punishment with him. If stated exclusion was warranted he should have been given it from the get go and alternative measures taken to set up his participation in his SAT's somewhere else.
Instead the headmistress chose not to acknowledge me until the 13th may considering I had spoken with the deputy several times and even she herself said she would inform the head to call me. I was not asked to attend any meetings etc by the 13th May the heads issues were that he was attending but not in uniform but when she realised her talking down to me didn't get her the response she had wanted she decided to try and use her authority to try and over rule me...i.e. that he was to stay in school to the end of every day however I stated as he was no longer going to be considered a pupil at the school I would only allow him to be there for his SAT's which were in the AM and he was to come home after each days tests. From the period of 6th -15th he spent this as punishment at home revising for his SAT's on BBC Bitesize as when they decided to give him a 3 week punishment over 4 weeks they stopped him attending his booster classes for revision before and during his SAT's the school once booster classes started were not even issuing homework which was something else I complained about.
She then sent me a letter threatening to report me to the educational social worker who I then called myself and informed him of everything that had taken place where I was then informed I had the right to home school my child. On his advice I called the school and informed them 14th May, my son did his last test the 16th May and I was contacted by the educational social worker to put this in writing to the school to cover myself. Which I did on the 20th May.
The school neither acknowledge receipt of my verbal or written intention and neither offered advice on where to find resources to help home school my child. However a few days before half term I had social services asking for an interview and telling me his details had been passed to them.
Now the educational social worker has already been last week to review the work I have been doing with my son, and spoken with me at length with my son present and spoken to my son.
They left happy with what I was doing as it is only till September so the only thing I can think is that the school have made some allegation against me because of how I have complained about how they handled the situation in addition to the lack of homework, treating him like he was a pervert/rapist/pedophile rather than a 10 yr old boy who was stupid.... this I picked up from the headmistresses comment to me when giving her reasoning on why she intended to give him inclusion she stated if she had had a daughter at the school she would not want her daughter left alone with my son...I even had her say if it were my daughter....but the fact is I have two daughter's and am in no way blind sided when it comes to my son, as I said he's annoying...But the head painted my son out to be a monster which the deputy head and education social worker did not, she stated that parents weren't happy sending their child to school with my son, yet at no point previous to the 13th had this been hinted at or suggested by the deputy head.
Even since his leaving the school I myself have witnessed his class mates call to him and ask him if he's coming back, while one girl's mother told me her daughter was upset that he wouldn't be going to the same senior school and that her daughter talks of nothing but my son and was unhappy he was no longer at school, She stated he daughter was choosy about her friends but saw my son as one of her best friends everyone says my son has manner's and is well behaved and everyone has been shocked at how this has been dealt with.
I can not say what the truth is behind the breast incident as he said he fell  but they say he felt the child's breast then said...""oh give us a kiss  yet the incident was not witnessed by an adult but the version of two children and my son adamantly denies saying what was said. But to now have social services on my case demanding an interview, calling at times when it is inappropriate to speak, refusing to acknowledge that I have stated its inappropriate (like while the housing officer was at my home today) and even refusing to put it in writing even threatening to just turn up at my home. I have since called back and reported her and made it clear should this report be based on an allegation from the school especially made between the dates of 6th -20th May I will sue the school.
Can someone tell me...WHY ME  |
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23rd June 2008, 19:31
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| | Gold Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED Quote:
Originally Posted by Help48xxx Hi Sweet,
I'm absolutely delighted for you! You should never have been placed in this position if the HO had been doing their job.
I would still advise though that you maintain a stance with your Housing Provider in regards to you making a complaint. It will be somewhat laborious, but ultimately it will give you certain protection throughout the rest of this matter. Also, when you have ANY dealings with your HO, make sure they are committed to writing. The HO will have to prove that they acted correctly, so you need paper trail. After each meeting, they should send you a letter outlining what was agreed. That way, you are fully protected.
Tenancy Sustainment Officer eh? Sounds like you've got them all running about like headless chickens now!
The one thing that most decent RSL's, (Registered Social Landlords), tend to agree on is that eviction should be the LAST RESORT. They are also monitored by Audit Commission on how many evictions they process etc and how those cases were dealt with by the RSL. Don't get me wrong though, some RSL's are performance targeted by their bosses to get evictions, particularly in regards to arrears, as this pushes up their productivity percentage....looks good to the Board!
In the meantime though, I'm really pleased you got the help you needed. No matter how late in the day it may seem, there is usually a solution. I also enjoyed being able to pass on some of my experience as I miss my Housing job terribly.........strange as it may seem. It's rewarding if it's done properly though.
Hope the migraine's easier tonight.
xx | Thank you, it just seemed funny how I read you reply today and then all this should happen but better late than never, will see what happens next.
Took a tablet so the head has eased  but there is still that dull ache that a good sleep could probably. |
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23rd June 2008, 19:56
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetnsexyenglish On top of everything else a social worker has called me twice for an interview regarding my son, apparently my details have been passed to them, and the time she started contacting me has been since I have taken my son out of school in order to home school him until september when he starts secondary school.
He is 10 yrs old, and an averaged pain in the ass troublesome annoying 10 yr old boy who happened to touch a fellow pupils breast at school for this he was given three weeks punishment over a four week period which at a time when I was already stressed out I asked they expel him.
They choose not to but from the 6th may wanted him to have 1 week inclusion then be treated as normal for his SAT'S then two weeks exclusion. Even an education social worker has said the situation was handled badly as yes even this sort of action regardless of the fact that they are just kids has to be taken seriously but the headmistress should not have done a bunny hop stop and start punishment with him. If stated exclusion was warranted he should have been given it from the get go and alternative measures taken to set up his participation in his SAT's somewhere else.
Instead the headmistress chose not to acknowledge me until the 13th may considering I had spoken with the deputy several times and even she herself said she would inform the head to call me. I was not asked to attend any meetings etc by the 13th May the heads issues were that he was attending but not in uniform but when she realised her talking down to me didn't get her the response she had wanted she decided to try and use her authority to try and over rule me...i.e. that he was to stay in school to the end of every day however I stated as he was no longer going to be considered a pupil at the school I would only allow him to be there for his SAT's which were in the AM and he was to come home after each days tests. From the period of 6th -15th he spent this as punishment at home revising for his SAT's on BBC Bitesize as when they decided to give him a 3 week punishment over 4 weeks they stopped him attending his booster classes for revision before and during his SAT's the school once booster classes started were not even issuing homework which was something else I complained about.
She then sent me a letter threatening to report me to the educational social worker who I then called myself and informed him of everything that had taken place where I was then informed I had the right to home school my child. On his advice I called the school and informed them 14th May, my son did his last test the 16th May and I was contacted by the educational social worker to put this in writing to the school to cover myself. Which I did on the 20th May.
The school neither acknowledge receipt of my verbal or written intention and neither offered advice on where to find resources to help home school my child. However a few days before half term I had social services asking for an interview and telling me his details had been passed to them.
Now the educational social worker has already been last week to review the work I have been doing with my son, and spoken with me at length with my son present and spoken to my son.
They left happy with what I was doing as it is only till September so the only thing I can think is that the school have made some allegation against me because of how I have complained about how they handled the situation in addition to the lack of homework, treating him like he was a pervert/rapist/pedophile rather than a 10 yr old boy who was stupid.... this I picked up from the headmistresses comment to me when giving her reasoning on why she intended to give him inclusion she stated if she had had a daughter at the school she would not want her daughter left alone with my son...I even had her say if it were my daughter....but the fact is I have two daughter's and am in no way blind sided when it comes to my son, as I said he's annoying...But the head painted my son out to be a monster which the deputy head and education social worker did not, she stated that parents weren't happy sending their child to school with my son, yet at no point previous to the 13th had this been hinted at or suggested by the deputy head.
Even since his leaving the school I myself have witnessed his class mates call to him and ask him if he's coming back, while one girl's mother told me her daughter was upset that he wouldn't be going to the same senior school and that her daughter talks of nothing but my son and was unhappy he was no longer at school, She stated he daughter was choosy about her friends but saw my son as one of her best friends everyone says my son has manner's and is well behaved and everyone has been shocked at how this has been dealt with.
I can not say what the truth is behind the breast incident as he said he fell  but they say he felt the child's breast then said...""oh give us a kiss  yet the incident was not witnessed by an adult but the version of two children and my son adamantly denies saying what was said. But to now have social services on my case demanding an interview, calling at times when it is inappropriate to speak, refusing to acknowledge that I have stated its inappropriate (like while the housing officer was at my home today) and even refusing to put it in writing even threatening to just turn up at my home. I have since called back and reported her and made it clear should this report be based on an allegation from the school especially made between the dates of 6th -20th May I will sue the school.
Can someone tell me...WHY ME  | OMG! They do say that Him above never gives us more than we can handle - your life at present would suggest that this might not be strictly true!!!??? As if you haven't got more than enough on your plate? Look, I really marvel at just how you are coping with all this, I really, really do. I am full of admiration for you. This 'bad patch' will not last forever - IT WILL BE RESOLVED and so just try to focus on the fact that THERE WILL BE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL! If your overworked brain can find the space/time - try to imagine how you are going to celebrate when this nightmare part of your life is over        !!! I bet it will be SOME kinda celebration eh? Speak to you soon, chin up and all that. |
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23rd June 2008, 22:13
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| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: Housing have issued Notice of Seeking Possession...Serious Benefits Problems Any Advice Will be APRECIATED Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetnsexyenglish On top of everything else a social worker has called me twice for an interview regarding my son, apparently my details have been passed to them, and the time she started contacting me has been since I have taken my son out of school in order to home school him until september when he starts secondary school.
He is 10 yrs old, and an averaged pain in the ass troublesome annoying 10 yr old boy who happened to touch a fellow pupils breast at school for this he was given three weeks punishment over a four week period which at a time when I was already stressed out I asked they expel him.
They choose not to but from the 6th may wanted him to have 1 week inclusion then be treated as normal for his SAT'S then two weeks exclusion. Even an education social worker has said the situation was handled badly as yes even this sort of action regardless of the fact that they are just kids has to be taken seriously but the headmistress should not have done a bunny hop stop and start punishment with him. If stated exclusion was warranted he should have been given it from the get go and alternative measures taken to set up his participation in his SAT's somewhere else.
Instead the headmistress chose not to acknowledge me until the 13th may considering I had spoken with the deputy several times and even she herself said she would inform the head to call me. I was not asked to attend any meetings etc by the 13th May the heads issues were that he was attending but not in uniform but when she realised her talking down to me didn't get her the response she had wanted she decided to try and use her authority to try and over rule me...i.e. that he was to stay in school to the end of every day however I stated as he was no longer going to be considered a pupil at the school I would only allow him to be there for his SAT's which were in the AM and he was to come home after each days tests. From the period of 6th -15th he spent this as punishment at home revising for his SAT's on BBC Bitesize as when they decided to give him a 3 week punishment over 4 weeks they stopped him attending his booster classes for revision before and during his SAT's the school once booster classes started were not even issuing homework which was something else I complained about.
She then sent me a letter threatening to report me to the educational social worker who I then called myself and informed him of everything that had taken place where I was then informed I had the right to home school my child. On his advice I called the school and informed them 14th May, my son did his last test the 16th May and I was contacted by the educational social worker to put this in writing to the school to cover myself. Which I did on the 20th May.
The school neither acknowledge receipt of my verbal or written intention and neither offered advice on where to find resources to help home school my child. However a few days before half term I had social services asking for an interview and telling me his details had been passed to them.
Now the educational social worker has already been last week to review the work I have been doing with my son, and spoken with me at length with my son present and spoken to my son.
They left happy with what I was doing as it is only till September so the only thing I can think is that the school have made some allegation against me because of how I have complained about how they handled the situation in addition to the lack of homework, treating him like he was a pervert/rapist/pedophile rather than a 10 yr old boy who was stupid.... this I picked up from the headmistresses comment to me when giving her reasoning on why she intended to give him inclusion she stated if she had had a daughter at the school she would not want her daughter left alone with my son...I even had her say if it were my daughter....but the fact is I have two daughter's and am in no way blind sided when it comes to my son, as I said he's annoying...But the head painted my son out to be a monster which the deputy head and education social worker did not, she stated that parents weren't happy sending their child to school with my son, yet at no point previous to the 13th had this been hinted at or suggested by the deputy head.
Even since his leaving the school I myself have witnessed his class mates call to him and ask him if he's coming back, while one girl's mother told me her daughter was upset that he wouldn't be going to the same senior school and that her daughter talks of nothing but my son and was unhappy he was no longer at school, She stated he daughter was choosy about her friends but saw my son as one of her best friends everyone says my son has manner's and is well behaved and everyone has been shocked at how this has been dealt with.
I can not say what the truth is behind the breast incident as he said he fell  but they say he felt the child's breast then said...""oh give us a kiss  yet the incident was not witnessed by an adult but the version of two children and my son adamantly denies saying what was said. But to now have social services on my case demanding an interview, calling at times when it is inappropriate to speak, refusing to acknowledge that I have stated its inappropriate (like while the housing officer was at my home today) and even refusing to put it in writing even threatening to just turn up at my home. I have since called back and reported her and made it clear should this report be based on an allegation from the school especially made between the dates of 6th -20th May I will sue the school.
Can someone tell me...WHY ME  | SSE,
I have heard numerous horror stories similar to this, in several instances the child has been taken into care, although this was 10/20 years ago when I was heavily involved with a charitable society in the Channel Islands. I had first hand dealings with social workers, local authorities and "childrens homes". I am not trying to put any more worries on your plate as you have more than enough already, but just trying to help you when dealing with social workers. Be very careful what you say to them, they may appear to be your friend and trying to help, but everything you say is remembered and can be taken out of context and used against you. it has happened to me personally. A social worker was talking to me after one of my sons was involved in a similar incident, I had said, in regard to a totally different thing that had happened, "I could have killed him!". now we all say this about our kids at time and not meaning it, after all it is just a figure of speech, but this was in a report as a threat to do violence to him. I have never laid a finger on my kids, and never would. but social workers are working to a different agenda to normal people. Many do not have kids of their own and have no idea what real life is about.
after your interview, write to the social worker with your understanding of what passed, state "this is my undersanding of what was said/agreed, is this correct or have I mis-understood?. make notes at the time, record the conversation if you can, ask lots of questions, like
"why are you here?",
"who sent you?",
why did they send you?",
"what allegations have been made?"
"who made them?"
"are there witnesses/statements?"
"can I see them?"
check with your local CAB if there is a society like "Families in Care" that deal with the parents and families of children in local authority care. Gingerbread may be able to help you with this. Do not be aggresive or unhelpful or lose your temper, as all these will go against you just keep calm and polite and friendly and THINK before you speak. I am not trying to alarm you, just painting a worst case scenario, it will prob just all blow over, a storm in a tea cup, but forewarned is forearmed. I once saw a sign outside Southampton Social Services office giving the wonderful advice "Save a child.................... ....... shoot a social worker. Keep smiling and please try not worry. you can PM me if you need more info.
Stone XXX
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23rd June 2008, 22:17
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