toon question

[lateralus]

forgive my yankee ignorance -
been here 24 years now and never paid much attention
but now hull is in the premier league, my ignorance is bugging me.

can one of you clever clogs explain to me the connection between the word toon and newcastle united (with apologies to crusher for mentioning the dreaded f subject)
it's toon army, toon this, toon that -
so,,,,,
why toon?

[Michael Browne]

Back in the day when you'd get attendances upward of 100,000 fans, the town centre would be awash with black and white and it looked a bit like an army. Toon is northern for town. Toon Army.

[lateralus]

i figured you would know, mb. hope you are keeping well.
hull actually won last saturday....not much of a footie fan - but it is exciting playing with the big boys. the whole of 'ull is hoping for a decent season.
thanks for the answer - o/h had said that's what he thought -but in typical wifely mood i figured he didn't know what he was talking about.
oh well, guess i'll have to let him have this one!

[HSBCrusher]

blimp - Weebl's Stuff

[Mrs_Ryan]

Originally Posted by lateralus

hull actually won last saturday....not much of a footie fan - but it is exciting playing with the big boys. the whole of 'ull is hoping for a decent season.

Rub it in why dont you

love from a disgruntled geordie xx

[Paintball]

Originally Posted by Michael Browne

Back in the day when you'd get attendances upward of 100,000 fans, the town centre would be awash with black and white and it looked a bit like an army. Toon is northern for town. Toon Army.

Not Northern Michael, Geordie for town. As in 'gan doon the toon' ...

Bottle of Broon Ale anyone?

[honey5]

The Geordie dialect

Geordie derives much less influence from French and Latin than does Standard English, being substantially Angle and Viking in origin. The accent and pronunciation, like in Lowland Scots, reflect old Anglo-Saxon pronunciations, accents and usages.

Personal pronouns differ markedly from Standard English: Geordies use "youse" for plural "you", "me" for "my", "us" for "me", "wor" for "our". The word "wor" is sometimes placed before the given name of the person being the subject of conversation to denote that they are a family member, for example "wor Allan" or "wor da" (father). It is also quite common for Geordies to use the word "man" for both men and women, as in "howay man" (c'mon you).

Vowel sounds are also quite unusual. "er" on the end of words becomes "a" ("father" is pronounced "fatha", both "a" sounds as in "hat"). Many "a" sounds become more like "e": "hev" for "have". Double vowels are often pronounced separately: "boat" becomes "boh-ut". Some words acquire extra vowels ("growel" for "growl", "cannet" for "can't"). The "or" sound in words like "talk" becomes "aa", while "er" sounds in words like "work" becomes "or". The "ow" in words like "down" or, most famously, "town" becomes "oo", hence "the Toon" meaning Newcastle. In Wearside, the "oo" in words like "cook", "book" or "look" becomes "uu".

Geordie also has a large amount of vocabulary not seen in other English dialects. Words still in common use today include "canny" for "pleasant", "gadgie" for "man", "hyem" for "home", "divn't" for "don't", "bairn" and "grandbairn" for "child" and "grandchild", "hacky" for "dirty", and "gannin" for "going". "Howay" is comparable to the French "voila", in taking almost any meaning depending on context. Examples of common use include "Howay man!", meaning something like "come on" or "hurry up", "Howay the lads!" meaning "well done", or "Howay!?" expressing incredulity or disbelief. When a Geordie uses the word "larn" for teach, it is not a misuse of the English word "learn"; the word is derived from the Anglo Saxon word "laeran", meaning to teach.

Geordie is also sometimes used to describe the distinctive dialect of the people of Northumbria. However strictly speaking, South East Northumberland (the mining area bordering Tyneside) has its own similar, but distinctive dialect known as Pitmatic.

dead easy see

[lateralus]

ta
thanks
muchas gracias
danke
merci
thankx
and, however you say it up there in geordie-land!