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17th December 2007, 13:58
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Drop your opinions (IE Vs Firefox) I prefer Mozilla Firebox because it runs much faster than IE. Firefox has much more features that make surfing the web more comfortable and pleasant. If you want to test that then you just open the same games sites in IE and Firefox, you will see that FireFox is much faster than IE. You may also take a review of different browsers on Browsers Reviews - Best Browser Review of internet explorer 7 and mozilla firefox 2 download review and see for yourself as to which one is the best! |
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5th February 2008, 13:28
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Drop your opinions (IE Vs Firefox) Firefox is superior to IE in almost every respect.
For my ordinary browsing, I use it as it handles tabbed browsing far better, is faster, more secure, and highly - near infinitely - configurable.
As a Web Developer, it has a number of significant advantages over IE7, not least its ability to render CSS properly, and a whole suite of plugins that allow you to break down webpages into their component parts.
It is also able to emulate IE perfectly (IE Tab plugin) for those few pages which are still backward enough to want IE only.
Additionally, Firefox - and projects like it - will always maintain a significant lead thanks to the way in which they're put together. Mozilla (which also includes the similarly superior email client, Thunderbird) are open source. Unlike Micro$oft, who jealously hide their program code, Mozilla is totally open; anybody can create code for Firefox, which not only makes availability of choice and style far in excess of IE, but it also hugely reduces the chance of bugs and security holes by the logic that having so many people working on something simultaneously massively reduces the chance of a problem going unnoticed.
The only time I ever use IE is when building websites to check for total Cross Browser Compatability. |
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5th February 2008, 16:36
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| | Site Team The Consumer Action Group | Re: Drop your opinions (IE Vs Firefox) Firefox for me through and through. Even when I used Windows I used to use it. I haven't got the option any more.
I installed it on my ex's machine and since then she has had NO spyware or adware.
I personally prefer it. I have never had a problem with any site - apart from the Windows Upgrade site - but as I no longer user Windows, this is not an issue for me any longer.
I generally write for the W3C standard, which works well in both. At work, however, I do have to write specifically for IE, which is annoying.
Other than that, I can't see a reason why I would ever use IE again. |
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5th February 2008, 16:55
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Drop your opinions (IE Vs Firefox) Quote: |
I personally prefer it. I have never had a problem with any site - apart from the Windows Upgrade site - but as I no longer user Windows, this is not an issue for me any longer.
| Nor for anybody with Windows and FireFox: WindizUpdate
This grabs all of the Windows updates from the Micro$oft site and makes them available to non-IE browsers. It also removes the Genuine (Dis)Advantage software requirement that MS force users to run. |
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5th February 2008, 19:29
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| | Site Team The Consumer Action Group | Re: Drop your opinions (IE Vs Firefox) It would be even nicer if all sites complied with the W3C standard (and M$ did too) then all sites would work with all browsers.
It's more-or-less only IE that puts the spanner in the works.
I would disagree that most sites are built around IE7 though.
In December (according to W3C) 21% of users were using IE7, 36.3% were using FF. |
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5th February 2008, 20:19
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Drop your opinions (IE Vs Firefox) Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanT IE7 is a very complete browser and most sites are designed around it, | This is not accurate. IE7 is no more a "complete browser" than Vista is a "complete OS" (see Switching to Vista).
Websites are designed and built around certain development languages (HTML, XHTML, PHP, and so on).
Whilst it is possible to tailor certain aspects of a site to behave differently depending on the surfer's browser, the vast majority just present the code of whichever language or mix of languages they're written in and let the browser do the rest.
All that browsers do, at their core, is read the language of the website and attempt to render it for the surfer.
IE - even IE7 - is notoriously bad at rendering a great deal of code which is standard across the web, and, in the case of CSS1, has been for years. Whether you like it or not, it is a simple fact that Firefox is superior to IE in its support for - and proper rendering of - webcode.
Case in point, almost every browser - including the current release of Firefox - fails the Acid2 Browser Test - The Web Standards Project test (although FF2 comes closest to proper rendering, with IE7 lagging way behind). Firefox 3 - still currently in beta testing - renders it properly, which will mean that it supports CSS code fully.
Let's be quite clear about this. Internet Explorer has not dominated the market because it is a superior browser. It dominated because it got bundled with the most commonly used Operating System in the world. A great many users doubtless either don't want what they see as the hassle or difficulty of changing, or are unaware that there are alternatives in the first place. Add to that the hundreds of thousands of office workers whose server admins don't allow the installation of third party software and it's easy to make the mistake of assuming the greater numbers on IE must equate to it being a better browser.
Almost every advance between IE6 to IE7 has been driven by playing 'catch-up' to other browsers, most notably FireFox. IE7 is still plagued by many problems, some technical (rendering issues for developers) and some functional (IE7 still has no dynamic search function, which FF users have enjoyed for a long time).
FireFox scooped over 15 awards between 2005 and 2007, compared to IE which scooped slightly less than 1. Indeed, such is the rapidly increasing support for FF that Micro$oft implimented greater FF support into Vista.
Unfortunately for Micro$oft, such conciliatory gestures are probably a case of too little too late. People are waking up to the concept of Web2 now, to open source projects and the freedom of choice. Micro$oft, with its jealous guarding of code and monopolising tactics (and its healthy collection of anti-monopolising fines) needs to adapt to this, or suffer continued losses.
Last edited by Tezcatlipoca; 5th February 2008 at 21:32.
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5th February 2008, 21:20
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| | Site Team The Consumer Action Group | Re: Drop your opinions (IE Vs Firefox) Well said, and very well put. |
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