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19th January 2007, 12:13
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Junklunacy v Barclays I received Barclays defence yesterday which is funny at best. It is the usual defence which i have read many times on this website.. 1. The Particulars of Claim do not provide details of the precise charges alleged to be unlawful or the date thereof. To extent it is alleged that the Claimant incurred bank charges on his account for unauthorised borrowings (whether unpaid fees for returned cheques, "Paid Referral fees" or any other such fees), the Defendant puts the Claimant to strict proof of each charge and the date thereof.
2. The Defendant's standard terms and conditions give the Claimant a fair and transparent view of those terms and the charges applicable for unauthorised borrowings (including where the account is overdrawn without an overdraft limit or where the claimant exceeds his authorised overdraft limit).
3. The Defendant is entitled to charge the Claimant for unauthorised borrowings by reason of its standard terms and conditions. The Claimant accepted the same when the account was opened, including (in particular without limitation) the following terms and conditions (which are summarised):
a) The Defendant's right to charge a 'Paid Referral fee' where the Defendant pays an amount (either compulsion or election) which causes the amount to become overdrawn - £30 per item (previously £25).
b)The Defendants right to charge an administrative fee if any cheque,. standing order or direct debit cannot be paid because of insufficient cleared funds in the account - £35 per item (previously £30).
c) Th Defendant's entitlement, if the Claimant becomes overdrawn without an overdraft limit, to charge interest at the unauthorised borrowing rate on the excess balance.
4. If and to the extent it is the Claimant's case that the failure to make necessary payments and/or failure to remain within authorised overdratf limits failure to arrange and authorised overdraft constituted a breach of terms applying to the account and that the contractual entitlement to debit charges from the Claimants account constitutes a liquidated damages clause, the same is denied. The charges consititute payments the Claimant agreed to make by reason of the terms and conditions of his account and were consideration for the Defendant advancing credit to the Claimant, which the Defendant was under no obligation to advance. The Defendant was entitled to impose such charges and interest when the Claimant incurred the overdraft.
5. Accordingly, it is denied that the legal principles relating to liquidation damages clauses and penalty charges are relevant or applicable to the facts set out above. Further or alternatively it is denied that any such charges constitute unlawful penalty charges are relevant or applicable to the facts set out above. Further or aternatively it is denied that any such charges constitute unlawful penatly charges or are in breach of hte Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 (particularly but without limitation to, paragraph 1 (e) of Schedule 2), or are in breach of s.4 of the Unfair (contracts) Terms Act 1977 (or any other provision), or are unreasonable within the meaning of s.15 of the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982 (or indeed any other provision).
6. Therefore, it is denied that the charges were unlawfully debited from the account.
7. If and to the extent the Claimant incurred charges on his account, this was caused by the Claimant having gone into Overdraft without having agreed with the Defendant an authorised overdraft facility or to increase the overdraft facility and/or his failure to make payments to bring the balance of the account back into credit.
8. It is averred that the said charges and interest are and remain lawful and enforceable and that the defendant was entitled to debit the same.
9. The Defendant denies that it is liable to the Claimant for the sums claimed and interest, as pleaded or at all. In the alternative if (which is denied) the said charges are unenforcable and consituted a breach of contact by the Defendant, those charges which were applied to the account prior to 05 December 2000 are not recoverable because they are time-barred under the terms of the Limitation Act 1980 in that more than six years have elapsed since the accrual of the cause of action.
10. In the alternative, and without prejudice to the paragraph 6 above, the Defendant has nonetheless suffered loss and damage as a consequence of the Claimant's breach of contract in allowing the account to go into unauthorised overdraft. Accordingly, in the event that the defendant is unabel to rely on its express entitlement to enforce the charges as set out at paragraphs 2, to 4, above, it will seek to recover to the extent necessary such loss and damage as it actuallly suffered, which will not necessarily be limited to the value of the said charges, and the defendant seeks to set off such sums against any liability owed hereunder to the Claimant Barclays Bank Plc.
I have until 3rd Feb to send off my AQ which is ready.
With regards to the 'Other Info' section I have gone down the route of including the New Strategy for AQ which i understand will put more of a squeeze on Barclays. I have ALL my paperwork ready and will not allow this to be struck out on my part  !! http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...tionaires.html |
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3rd February 2007, 10:32
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Junklunacy v Barclays I have received a recorded delivery letter from Barclays, yes you've guessed it offering to SETTLE IN FULL  for all of the claim (£1700). I never made a call to them nor was I intending to, although i was starting to get itchy feet. It looks like the CMI sheet finally got them with months of persistant letters etc... I have to sign the form and send back and they will transfer the funds into my Barclays account lol. I will be advising them that until the monies have cleared I will then inform the courts of this info and to withdraw my claim.
Thanks everybody and be patient!! They will crack eventually!! Alliance & Leicester here I come...see here Junklunacy v Alliance & Leicester |
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3rd February 2007, 13:34
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I am in: West Yorkshire
Posts: 152
| Re: Junklunacy v Barclays Congrats junk, im in leeds on the 7th but no such luck as a settlement.
To follow my claim against barclays Msa V Barclays Bank 5 days till court |
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3rd February 2007, 14:13
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| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: Junklunacy v Barclays If there's a confidentiality clause in the letter, put a line through it before returning it.
Please take a minute to complete the survey and a donation to this site to enable it to help others would be appreciated.
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6th February 2007, 08:50
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| | Basic Account Customer | Re: Junklunacy v Barclays Thanks everybody for help and assistance during my case. It has been very useful and inspiring. I can confirm that the monies were paid directly into my Barclays account yesterday. I will be handing a letter into the court today in Leeds to inform them and apologise for lateness for no fault of my own, but because of Barclays obvious time wasting tactics.
Survey complete and a donation on its way
Follow my other claim with Alliance & Leicester here http://www.consumeractiongroup.c o.uk/forum/alliance-leicester/55554-junklunacy-alliance-leicester.html |
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