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19th June 2006, 12:58
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| | Classic Account Customer | BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? Hi there all ,
A quick folow up.
I have got some sense ( if you can call it that) from the Information Commissioners Office just now
I have clarified that yes, group action is allowed.
However for case law to be made it has to be outside of the small claims track.
Waiting for clarification on this from my law centre ( unless anyone here can advise)
BUt IM ready and raring to get this baby into court, lets see how b/card defend ( or not turn up, whatever) this one.
As abbey have shot themselves in the foot and the more I read about mircrofiche on this ere interweb, the more I am convinced, that we will not lose this one, but case law MUST be made sooner rather than later In my opinion. #
Im happy to lead on this one, but I believe a group action is just what we need. plus it saves us all going to court seperately and might reduice the cost burden for individuals. PLus it might just get in the press- which I would love.
Add your names here if you are interested, maybe we could work on getting a e-group via msn or yahoo or something to chat over what we need to do.
If there are any issues im not aware of do speak up now, and lets see what we can do.
lickthewallfatboy? YOU IN??
Mods please dont merge with my other thread, otherwise many wont see it.
Also done a new post with this link at the top of b/card forum |
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19th June 2006, 13:02
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| | Classic Account Customer | Group Action on DPA for b/card- whos with me? http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...9399#post89399
Posted in Data Protection Act & legalities.
I am looking for angry people whom b/card have chosen to use the Microfuiche argument on. Add your name there if you are interested in coming in.
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19th June 2006, 14:20
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| | Platinum Account Customer
Is your bank avoiding its debts Data disclosure poll Cagger since
: Mar 2006 I am in: The Twilight Zone
Posts: 911
| Re: BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? Hi all!
Lynzpower,I note that you mention the class action is not allowed under the small claims.
In my view:
1.I feel that we need to get some sort of leave from the courts to be able to persue our claims against the banks who have endless financial resources whether b/card or otherwise.
or
2.Maybe the court action(which we would need to discuss the
strategy) and possibly get injunctions to compel the Information Commissioners Office/OFT to put sanctions on finance companies for bad practices i.e.incomplete Data Protection Act requests,creditor/debt harassment and stalling tactics in refunding monies they should have never taken off consumers in the first place etc etc etc!!!!!!!!!!!
This legal action should be non-confrontational in order to have the OFT/Information Commissioners Office working with us rather than against us because we are very concerned about how finance companies flout the laws and thus are in total contempt of the laws.
So in brief,maybe any class action should not be against the banks but the Information Commissioners Office or OFT - which any action should qualify in my view for legal aid and regardless of people's means.
This would be because there have been failings along the way - Information Commissioners Office or OFT as regulators.Also,as there have not been any remedies put in place albeit the recent announcements.
Anyway,this is my 2 pence worth.
Also,consider me in!
Last edited by Nightmare4banks; 19th June 2006 at 14:27.
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19th June 2006, 15:02
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| | Classic Account Customer
Where else can you earn 8% interest on your money? Start your County Court claim NOW!!! Cagger since
: Mar 2006
Posts: 186
| Re: BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? thank you for this N4 banks
I have been swung all around the houses today.
Basically as it goes, the small claims route, can get a group action no problemo, although it DOES NOT create case law which to my mind is the issue at hand
If we could get this in front of a judge and b/card have to state how the microfiche is ordered and lets face it filed, then fine. It will create case law, even if it is limited in the way that says, microfiche is a RFS Which will of course knock this stalling tactic on the head once and for all.
I have spoken to bl**dy everyone today
1. the law society who gives me lists of solicitors none of whom will speak with me without me paying for it
2. community law centres dont deal with these issues fdocusing on housing/ immigration & the like
3. legal aid seem to be telling me we cant get anything as IM not on benefits, or low income ( altohugh most of my income is swallowed on debt repayments, but there you are)
Let me reply to your bit N4b
In my view:
1.I feel that we need to get some sort of leave from the courts to be able to persue our claims against the banks who have endless financial resources whether b/card or otherwise. ( how do we do this? Who would give us the answer to this?Does anyone know)
or
2.Maybe the court action(which we would need to discuss the
strategy) and possibly get injunctions to compel the Information Commissioners Office/OFT to put sanctions on finance companies for bad practices i.e.incomplete Data Protection Act requests,creditor/debt harassment and stalling tactics in refunding monies they should have never taken off consumers in the first place etc etc etc!!!!!!!!!!!
This legal action should be non-confrontational in order to have the OFT/Information Commissioners Office working with us rather than against us because we are very concerned about how finance companies flout the laws and thus are in total contempt of the laws.
the sticking point for this is that the Information Commissioners Office are stating that microfiche is a RFS. they also state that they are working with the banks to encourage them to comply with the act, but on the other hand stating that the microfiche issue will remain. I have put it to them that what robert said in my other thread that its the transactional data I need, i dont care about the statements " we are workig with the banks" "watch this space"
I dont want to sit around watching a space thank you , Id rather use the legal rights I have.
In any case Ill be setting up a invision board similar to this for us to discuss in private - if any mods want to give me some pointers on how to do so, that would be well useful.
I tihnk we do need to chat at length to make sure we are on the right lines
All the best
lynz
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20th June 2006, 11:07
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| | Classic Account Customer
Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Cagger since
: Mar 2006
Posts: 186
| Re: Group Action on DPA for b/card- whos with me? or you can also PM me
I have a few members interested at the moment
Obviously this effort is time limited, so if you are in, then please do let me know asap |
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21st June 2006, 10:30
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| | Basic Account Customer
Where else can you earn 8% interest on your money? Start your County Court claim NOW!!! Cagger since
: May 2006
Posts: 17
| Re: BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? There, that's better (calam is my better half)..
I'm in like Flint on this one, though I have just sent them an estimated claim to try and speed up my own case.
Keep me posted.. |
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21st June 2006, 10:50
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| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? Free forum providers: http://www.danethical.com
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21st June 2006, 12:31
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| | Basic Account Customer
Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Cagger since
: May 2006
Posts: 16
| Re: BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? I'm not in the same boat as you guys...but can I sit in the gallery?  |
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21st June 2006, 20:17
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? Ok
I have invited some people to the forum as and when. If you have not been invited but are interested DO DROP ME A PM HERE and I will send you the link
there are only 2 of us seemingly chatting at the mo although someone else has joined but not posted ( andy? who are you)
It is Im afraid only for those whom are a) wanting to be part of the action
b) only for those who have hit the stage of being out of the Data Protection Act time slot.
Anyone who is aware of how to add chatr boxes to footers, please give me a yell im desperate to get this added
I will be online NOW, but only for a short time. We can agree I think a timeslot for discussion evenings may be better when it suits all of us. However that discussion will happen in the secret forum, not here obv
thanks to all interested
Come over/ send PMs etc
Last edited by lynzpower; 21st June 2006 at 20:19.
Reason: mistake
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22nd June 2006, 18:55
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| | Basic Account Customer
Where else can you earn 8% interest on your money? Start your County Court claim NOW!!! Cagger since
: Apr 2006
Posts: 27
| Re: BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? I'm in - see my PM sent earlier today |
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24th June 2006, 10:22
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| | Basic Account Customer
Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Cagger since
: Apr 2006 I am in: North East
Posts: 107
| Re: BARCLAYCARD GROUP D P A ACTION- whos with me? hi i'm having the argument with racheal shelis at the mo what can i do? |
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