Fireman 1963 baliffs demand fees whilst parent out from the kids help please

[MARTIN3030]

Ok Fireman heres your thread give us a bit of info please

[MARTIN3030]

Where is he........??????????????? ???????

[angela1606]

lol i think you frightened him

[fireman1963]

Can anyone help with a couple of questions i have regarding bailiffs powers.
My sister in law had two bailiffs turn up at her house while she was out, her 16 year old daughter was at home looking after her younger sisters aged 14 and 7. They had just got up and were in their pyjamas when bailiffs knocked and entered their house when she answered the door they would not leave even when asked by their mother, their aunt and me their uncle in three different telephone different telephone calls to the homes.
When i arrived at the house they had left the building and were waiting outside. I Challenged them on them entering the house when they knew that there were minors only at home and was told they had a warrant and could do it. when i asked if they were aware of the child protectio act one of them said he would report them to social services, i believed this to imply they would have them taken into care.
I also ended up paying £456.57 to them for a disputed parking ticket fine of £95.

Are they allowed to enter the house when only minors are at home?
Can they imply that they could call social services and report the children being left, even though this is perfectly legal to leave them?
Is the amount demanded appropriate to the fine imposed (an increase of 480%)?

please help as i want to take this all the way!

[bram stoker]

I believe you have no problem with the 16 yr old at home looking after the others. Ignore your worries there completely.

I would have gone straight to the police.

I am not competent to advise here, but these baillifs sound like they should be arrested - in my opinion.

[i_spam]

Right you want to firstly log a complaint with the police. secondly log a complaint with the courts that issued the bailiffs with their certificates. thirdly log a written complaint with the company concerned and also with the creditor who sent them. Also send a S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) off to the bailiff company. wait for the 40 days and if no joy send a reminder and then also a lba and then immediately issue a n1 for non compliance for the whole amount. see them squirm when this happens. you have paid what you had to now you have all the time in the world to screw their lives up(bailiffs and co)

[spotnot]

Definitely contact the police. This comes under intimidation of minors and is very, very serious. This is the one time when the police will take notice of complaints against bailiffs.

And a person of 14 can be left alone and can be in charge of those younger than them

Absolutely appalling behaviour

Spot

[MARTIN3030]

Should be enough to start with.
They have broken a few rules here.What is the firms name ? Did they leave a breakdown of the charges ?
This is also something they are required to do,and something that should be requested as a right.
It may be that the regulatory authorities will only become involved after you have complained to the Firm itself and got no joy,I would imagine this has to be in your first list of contacts to allow them the chance to redress their actions.Although I agree the Police should be notified ASAP.
Another example of blatantly abusing their positions.
Have a look at the top of the thread for guidelines which they are required to follow.....you may see more things there which will assist you.
Give me the name of the Baliffs and I will get you the name of their association/regulatory body this needs to be put in front of their noses.

[stan5131]

I really would take this all the way. About time someone taught these thugs a lesson. Did they leave you a receipt with a breakdown of what they charged?

[i_spam]

I would also speak to a legal advisor re your home insurance policy should cover you for this. they will chase them through the courts and so on behalf of the minors.

[gizmo111]

What did they actually say re the children?
It is a long process to have a child taken into care unless it is an emergency.

[bram stoker]

Originally Posted by gizmo111

What did they actually say re the children?
It is a long process to have a child taken into care unless it is an emergency.

They were just bully tactics I'm sure. I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice and I would not be bullied.

I'd file a police report immediately. When did this happen?

[fireman1963]

firstly thanks for your responses and support,
the name of the company is Drakes Group however the bailiffs said they were from Drakes Enforcement. When i challenged them they refused to give the name of the company or phone as i wanted to verify who they were until i paid up the full amount. I did contact the police when they refused to leave the house, the police said tough they have a warrant, and i have already made a compliant to the police for their behaviour and that is being looked at by a senior officer who contacted us today.
Sorry to be a thickie but what is an S.A.R - (Subject Access Request), lba, n1 and the other stuff you mention ?
i also asked why it was such a large amount for a £95 fine and was told that she should have paid the fine, there was no offer of a breakdown

[rambo]

Drakes again.
And the goverment are thinking of giving bailiffs the power of forced entry!.
It's a disgrace.

[diabolical]

This is disgusting.

Apparently, Drakes spoke to someone else's kids using threats (see the bottom of the page):

BBC NEWS | Magazine | At debt's door

"It pledged to investigate any allegation of impropriety or poor practice and take appropriate action as necessary."

May be a thought to report them back to James Wheble at the BBC Whistleblower programme in case they're preparing a follow-up.