BBC Story on bailiffs

[kermit2482]

Originally Posted by newton

I believe in the Peoples Republic of China it is actually unlawfull to act as a bailiff or to seek the services of a bailiff or a debit collection agency

I believe they cite this as these people are naturally drawn to taking the law into their own hands and the fees and penalties they charge are invariably excessive compared to the original debit

There is also some reference to the fact that the Bailiffs actually make the business industry uncompetititve because the company giving out the debit in the first place should vet their clients properly and only give debits where they can be fairly sure of a return

NOW I AM NOT A COMMUNIST AND I DONT AGREE WITH COMMUNIST RULES AND REGULATIONS but reading through some of the horrific actions and reactions on here i think there is a lot of sense in severely curtailing the powers that bailiffs/debit collectors have

Fair post and one which i would not totally disagree with, however just one point, debit collectors have no powers what so ever and bailiffs have in my opinion very limited powers .

[JonCris]

Originally Posted by kermit2482

well tough as im entitled to my opinion also, And if you look around the forum i do empathise with a lot of people and indeed try and help them, its just that certain members on here cant see past their own noses and cant help but slag off people for no other reason than they have a non desirable job, now good morning to you

Kermit no doubt in order to salve your conscience you may have empathised with others here but that's not the same as offering constructive & meaningful advice I'm afraid. Advice which will help those being bullied & threatened by what after all are your colleagues in the debt collection industry is what is needed

These types of forums are not for the discussion as to whether DCA's are good or not or for the ve vas only vollowing orders mien heir brigade who often appear to try & justify their appalling job by claiming many or even most debtors are feckless


As or not seeing past my nose Having worked in your industry & seen how it operates in general I can most certainly see past my nose & it's the reason I left it many years ago to work for the victims rather than the victimisers

[JonCris]

Originally Posted by kermit2482

Fair post and one which i would not totally disagree with, however just one point, debit collectors have no powers what so ever and bailiffs have in my opinion very limited powers .

Maybe but that doesn't stop them using non-existent or very limited powers. In other words acting unlawfully or even illegally at every opportunity. & this government want to give them more ....... unbelievable! ...............It's like making murder lawful just because it happens

[kermit2482]

Hi Joncris, perhaps you have not read all my posts within this forum then as i have most definately given constructive advice however it has become apparent that no matter what a bailiff does it will always be thrown back at them and used against them, i think for the sensible readers of this forum this is all far too apparent,

Thankfully i will continue to post as i have had a couple of thankyou private messages from certain members which restores my faith in the good people.

Perhaps the good folk whom have thanked me for my help and responses would care to just give it a quick mention and show themselves in order that i can let some of these shall we say doubters go and strip someone else of their credability!!!

[Susij]

hmmmm, not sure they are the best example of treating people right, but that's a whole different story, or am I so stressed I'm missing the irony here? :o

Originally Posted by newton

I believe in the Peoples Republic of China it is actually unlawfull to act as a bailiff or to seek the services of a bailiff or a debit collection agency

[JonCris]

lets be clear here anyone & I mean anyone who thinks being a debt collector (or bailiff) is an honorable profession needs to have another look in the mirror

I could not sleep at night knowing I'd scared the hell out of some poor soul over money. Having seen the affect it has on people I really can say with all honesty that I'd rather starve then be a debt collector......of any kind

[Susij]

Sorry, whilst in my experience (fairly limited) and even based on heresay from my friends, I feel the majority of bailiffs are very very mean and nasty people, I have met two (which represents 2/5 of my experience, or half if you don't count the HCEO) who were very helpful, reasonable and one was even 'kind'

So, they are not ALL bad. One example (which I have briefly posted elsewhere on here) was a bailiff who handed me a tissue and gently told me which forms to fill out to stop the bailiff visits when I burst into tears (apart from the stress of debt, my mum had just been taken ill and I was trying to borrow money to fly out to see her as she retired abroad, particularly difficult when not working, etc, etc). The bailiff even gave me a head start to the court, so I could do the forms right away. When my mum died a few weeks later (and I had my stay of execution and set aside) I received a sympathy card from the bailiff. That is definitely not someone who wants to bully and terrorise people, so Kermit is not alone, just in a very small minority

[kermit2482]

Originally Posted by Susij

Sorry, whilst in my experience (fairly limited) and even based on heresay from my friends, I feel the majority of bailiffs are very very mean and nasty people, I have met two (which represents 2/5 of my experience, or half if you don't count the HCEO) who were very helpful, reasonable and one was even 'kind'

So, they are not ALL bad. One example (which I have briefly posted elsewhere on here) was a bailiff who handed me a tissue and gently told me which forms to fill out to stop the bailiff visits when I burst into tears (apart from the stress of debt, my mum had just been taken ill and I was trying to borrow money to fly out to see her as she retired abroad, particularly difficult when not working, etc, etc). The bailiff even gave me a head start to the court, so I could do the forms right away. When my mum died a few weeks later (and I had my stay of execution and set aside) I received a sympathy card from the bailiff. That is definitely not someone who wants to bully and terrorise people, so Kermit is not alone, just in a very small minority

Very sorry to hear about your mum and i wish you all the best for the future, thanks for the sort of vote of confidence too

[Susij]

Originally Posted by kermit2482

Very sorry to hear about your mum and i wish you all the best for the future, thanks for the sort of vote of confidence too

you are welcome, I might have been nicer if I thought I wouldn't get flamed

[louloubella73]

Drakes/Marston group balliffs broken my lock and pushed over my baby daughter-PLEASE HELP!!!!

that s a link to my recent experience-about time another investigation was done into this so called 'industry'-from what I can see, nothing much has changed since the last documentary about rouge bailiffs went out-they re still getting away what they do and must be laughing their socks off.