BBC Story on bailiffs

[kel123]

It is a pity B&S don't think that way - now I wonder why they lost the Walsall contract, sorry! it was down to someone under bidding?????

[JonCris]

The problem kermit is that your company appears to be in the minority

[seanamarts]

Originally Posted by JonCris

The problem kermit is that your company appears to be in the minority

I for one would be interested in what company Kermit works for.
I could name and shame many bailiffs and bailiff companies that break ever rule in the book, but I would risk being banned,
The bailiffs are not the only ones who do use bully tactics either, the company and their office staff are just as bad, these people dont care whether you are poor, rich, female on her own, pregnant, disabled, old or frail, they treat you with no respect and all will be happy to stick their size 10+ steel toecap boots through your door just to get at mega pickings and for what?? They are not prepared to listen to reason, dont care if there has been a mistake, they lie just to scare you, why? so they can line their own pockets with your money. Its not a job they do, its nothing more than legalised theft. And most police forces will either help or turn a blind eye because they have the same presumptions that if they have a court document then they are the good guys and we are the bad people who dont pay what is owed, and are treated like a criminal. I can now see the bailiffs rubbing their hands and almost drooling now that there is a recession pending. These bailiffs need to stop treating people as if we were all the same, ok there are some out there that thwart the law, but dont tar every one with the same brush, mistakes are made and they should take that into consideration, they have ruined peoples lives and some have taken their lives because of mistakes, how do they live with themselves. God forbid if one of their family ever gets treated like they treat others.

[kel123]

Following some of kermits posts I know what company I would put my money on. If you look at his other posts 2 deniles out of 3 posabilities says loads. And yes Bristow & Sutor have lost the Walsall Council contract according to Walsalls head poncho.

I think Walsall Council are lambeth Council reincarnated!

[kermit2482]

Originally Posted by seanamarts

These bailiffs need to stop treating people as if we were all the same, ok there are some out there that thwart the law, but dont tar every one with the same brush,
.

Exactly how i feel when people tar all of us with the same brush, just as this forum does day in and day out unfortunately

However i am prepared to accept that there are a lot whom do give the industry a bad name, but having said that i have also come across a lot of people who are prepared to tell damned right lies too and yes i am talking the general public here, i could give a couple of examples but i wont breach Data Protection Act so i shall leave it at that.

As for what company i work for, let me assure you its none of which i have seen mentioned on here, however i have not loooked that far back i will admit

[seanamarts]

Originally Posted by kermit2482

Exactly how i feel when people tar all of us with the same brush, just as this forum does day in and day out unfortunately

However i am prepared to accept that there are a lot whom do give the industry a bad name, but having said that i have also come across a lot of people who are prepared to tell damned right lies too and yes i am talking the general public here, i could give a couple of examples but i wont breach Data Protection Act so i shall leave it at that.

As for what company i work for, let me assure you its none of which i have seen mentioned on here, however i have not loooked that far back i will admit

then may be you and others like you need to do something instead of just watching it go on around you, because its not the public that are giving you bailiffs a bad name but its your own kind

[tonycee]

Originally Posted by kermit2482

Exactly how i feel when people tar all of us with the same brush, just as this forum does day in and day out unfortunately

Heres a clue...

[kermit2482]

Originally Posted by tonycee

Heres a clue...

I shall treat that with the contempt it deserves

[caledfwlch]

Originally Posted by kermit2482

Exactly how i feel when people tar all of us with the same brush, just as this forum does day in and day out unfortunately

However i am prepared to accept that there are a lot whom do give the industry a bad name, but having said that i have also come across a lot of people who are prepared to tell damned right lies too and yes i am talking the general public here, i could give a couple of examples but i wont breach Data Protection Act so i shall leave it at that.

As for what company i work for, let me assure you its none of which i have seen mentioned on here, however i have not loooked that far back i will admit

I for one will happily outright lie, cheat and use every loophole available against a bailiff inflicted upon me, see, I was brought up to defend myself against and stand up to bullies. Also we have no legal or moral obligations to a balliff as far as I can see - I am not lawfully obliged for example from what I can tell, to present a true picture of my financial state to a bailiff, to a court or the council, of course yes, but not to the highwayman at the door.

[kermit2482]

Originally Posted by caledfwlch

I for one will happily outright lie, cheat and use every loophole available against a bailiff inflicted upon me, see, I was brought up to defend myself against and stand up to bullies. Also we have no legal or moral obligations to a balliff as far as I can see - I am not lawfully obliged for example from what I can tell, to present a true picture of my financial state to a bailiff, to a court or the council, of course yes, but not to the highwayman at the door.

My point exactly and thanks for stating your opinion, thankfully not all people think like you, im not going to knock you for it, but at least you have the decency to state that you wilfully lie and cheat to defend yourself against bailiffs!! It's just a pity more people wont tell the truth on here, have a great day

[caledfwlch]

Kermit, its a shame more people are not prepared to use every loophole possible and get a form 4 in against every bailiff that makes one single mistake. Strangely, I am not by nature a liar or a cheater, but I see no problem with anyone wanting to misrepresent their situation to a bailiff, they as far as I can see do not occupy a magical legal status like a police officer, or a judge, or your local council where you are rightfully obliged to tell the full truth. I for example would not lie to an actual creditor, But have no problem getting a family member to go do a statutory declaration to protect my property from a Bailiff, albeit that its all ancient stuff bought as second hand anyway The sad irony is I wouldnt actually need to lie to one should one visit, as i really am financially screwed and would be able to present a payslip and a pile of bills to prove it ....

[kermit2482]

Originally Posted by caledfwlch

Kermit, its a shame more people are not prepared to use every loophole possible and get a form 4 in against every bailiff that makes one single mistake. Strangely, I am not by nature a liar or a cheater, but I see no problem with anyone wanting to misrepresent their situation to a bailiff, they as far as I can see do not occupy a magical legal status like a police officer, or a judge, or your local council where you are rightfully obliged to tell the full truth. I for example would not lie to an actual creditor, But have no problem getting a family member to go do a statutory declaration to protect my property from a Bailiff, albeit that its all ancient stuff bought as second hand anyway The sad irony is I wouldnt actually need to lie to one should one visit, as i really am financially screwed and would be able to present a payslip and a pile of bills to prove it ....

Well all i can say is good luck and hopefully your situation will change for the better soonest and again thanks for your honesty

[sillygirl1]

I've got a Stat Dec from my landlord stating the only things I possess in the flat are my clothes, everything else is his and his brothers (three of them own this flat and rent it out) or the other flatmates. Its more a safeguard than anything else as we've had two bailiffs turn up recently for debts which aren't mine and the people concerned no longer live here. One said he would "strip the flat bare and it would cost a pretty penny to get it back". I just told him "Strip the flat bare and you will be out of a job as it will be theft". That was part of the reason I found CAG in the first place...


The other bailiff claimed he had gone to the wrong address when faced with fellow flatmate being a tall broad Scotsman who is 'handy with his mitts' when needed. (said flatmate was amateur boxer in his younger days). This was to do with a parking fine and the guy turned up at 5.30am.. not expecting people to be up! The fine wasn't mine as I have never owned a car nor got a driving licence. He said he would be back with reinforcements and we said "make sure you get the right address, this is xxx not xyx...."

[JonCris]

Originally Posted by kermit2482

My point exactly and thanks for stating your opinion, thankfully not all people think like you,

im

not going to knock you for it, but at least you have the decency to state that you wilfully lie and cheat to defend yourself against bailiffs!! It's just a pity more people wont tell the truth on here, have a great day

Yeah well kermit you claim there only a minority of bailiffs who behave badly when we all know that ain't true & I too advocate consumers refusing to cooperate with any debt collector as if they do the debt collector will only take advantage of your willingness to cooperate

[kermit2482]

Some of you people are just not worth talking too i see !!!

[tonycee]

Originally Posted by kermit2482

Some of you people are just not worth talking too i see !!!

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