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Old 10th June 2009, 17:12   #561 (permalink)
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evening all. threw this together for a & l ,any sugestions as to how or if it needs elaborating?

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thank you for your response to my application for a refund of charges due to financial hardship.

I note that your response begins “it would appear that you have sufficient disposable income in order to meet your current financial commitments and reasonable living expenses.” yet you do not elaborate on how you came to this decision,. Therefore I must insist that you show your calculations, and explain what formula you are using to reach this conclusion. I must also inform you that I will be contacting the FSA for their interpretation of my income and expenditure analysis.
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hi ginger


just keep posting someone will respond.and there are still plenty of others you can chat to.like me although im no expert and i dont give advice. apart from read as much as you can on the forums and bump yourself to the top.

good luck mate .

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Old 10th June 2009, 18:16   #563 (permalink)
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cheers chubba

its early days but time for action wheres my starting point for financial hardship mate

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fed up ...............wish this would all end ..........
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I joined this discussion late but on the income and expenditure form did you include Household income and expenditure?

And are there priority debt arrears(mortgage/rent, council tax, utilities)?
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Hi Chubba

dont give up yet - you are right to keep trying if you believe you are a hardship case
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i am sort of not giving up,if you know what i mean,
i included every pennie that comes in and every pennie that goes out.it left me with a minus figure at the end of every week and i explained that i rob peter to pay paul.i have asked them to show the calculations they used to determine the sufficient disposable income.

but they have basically said, get lost chubbs.if you want to follow this up go to the ombudsman, or the fsa ,you have six months to continue your claim.



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And are there priority debt arrears(mortgage/rent, council tax, utilities)?
and the second question?
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yes i have some rent arrears and have recently lost my job.but they arnt interested!!!
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Tell them )A&L) you are making an official complaint to the FOS .

I know it will take time but for the sake of one more letter its worth a try.


Tell them you consider you are a genuine hardship case under the terms of the waiver. A&L will not confirm why they consider you are not and have not assisted you at all.

I am fed up to the teeth with them as well and have just closed my account with them as they have applied more charges. I will be putting in my claim and then sitting tight I guess.

Give me a shout if you need some help with the letters, although I am sure you are cabable you are probably fed up to the back teeth of doing them.
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............... .how do everyone.well, i have now decided to go ahead with another (yes another) shot at the hardship case approach.any ideas about wording my appeal against their decision would be a great help.they gave me six months to appeal their decision that they made in june 09 .so i need to get my finger out so to speak.
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Hi chubbas

Google BBC News 24, ( business page ) good article today from FOS about hardship claimsand the banks behaviour.

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Google BBC News 24, ( business page ) good article today from FOS about hardship claimsand the banks behaviour.

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a link may be helpful ?
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If your situation has not changed - why bother just go straight to FOs
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BBC NEWS | Business | Banks rapped over hardship claims
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...............bored, and its nearly xmas...............
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...............omg there goes xmas, and new year, and eveything.bloody hell.. corruption is rife in this country.i am so going to get an account somewhere else like the post office.sod the banks who needs another leach sucking the life blood out of them.
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its very quiet here on the western front.i am waiting for a letter from a & l saying "that is it fat lad, game over".
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NEWS RELEASE
Friday 27 November 2009

spread the word people.........the fight is still on!!!!!

News Update: Ray Cox QC to fight bank charges

MoneySavingExpert.com has today arranged for top banking barrister Ray CoxQC to redraft its bank charges template letters, in light of the Supreme Court judgem ent.

The site is doing this by engaging Govan Law centre, run by campaigning solicitor Mike Dailly, and it will instruct Mr. Ray Cox QC and Mr Giles Wheeler, both barristers at Fountain Courts Chamber, Temple.

Martin Lewis, creator of MoneySavingExpert.com says:

"There are millions of people with cases on hold, and the OFT won’t be giving its view until December – meanwhile the banks are already starting to apply to have cases kicked out of court. We hope to put the brakes on this by drafting amended documents which people reclaiming can submit to the court based on the latest ruling.

"The Supreme Court itself noted that the question of fairness could still be looked at under the now infamous ‘regulation 5’ of the UTCCR regulations and that's exactly where we will be attacking. It will be interesting to see how the banks react to what we hope will be the Rolls-Royce of template letters – drafted by a QC who has many times lead cases for the banks themselves.

"We may even return to a situation of goodwill payments in the interim as they wait to expand their arguments, so as not to risk a precedent setting decision against them.

"While we’re under no illusions of the difficulty of the task, and don’t want any reclaimers to bank on getting their money back, this does mean the campaign's back on and the banks need to watch in their rear view mirrors."

Solicitor Mike Dailly of Govan law centre comments:

“We're delighted to be working with MoneySavingExpert.com on what is perhaps one of the biggest rescue operations in recent UK consumer history.

"Rumours of the demise of the unfair bank charges campaign have been greatly exaggerated by the banks. The Supreme Court gave a very clear message that bank charges could still be unfair under regulation 5, and so a brand new right to reclaim will shortly be available to consumers on the authority of no less than the Supreme Court itself".

The template letters and legal advice should be available within the next two weeks via www.MoneySavingExpert.com alongside the other free campaigning sites including the Consumer Action Group, Penalty Charges and Legal B eagles - who will be feeding into this process too.
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yes on LB they are advising caution until the final draft is finished - unless a hearing is imminent - just hold on a few days - time to re-group.Just remember the court did not say charges were unfair - only that the OFT did not have the power to assess the fairness under the narow remit they used.
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