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Old 16th June 2006, 23:14   #1 (permalink)
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Default fivelaws v A&L ***WON***

After waiting 30-days from Data Protection Act for the copy statements, I received this morning a staggering 8cm pile of paper (about 800 sheets!)... It was only that size because each sheet contained a maximum of 11 transactions. The idiots.

Anyway, after a back-breaking job of going through the pile (which included about 50 duplicate pages, for some reason), I've calculated the charges since June-2000 as a whopping £4,993.25. April 2003 was a low-point in this relationship with £520 of charges. The most I have ever been overdrawn is £850, so the costs are very disproportionate.

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Good luck.

What a great amount to be claiming for - can't get much closer to the £5k limit!
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can't get much closer to the £5k limit!
It was £5,035.25, but somehow two of the very earliest charges got ... er ... missed off the spreadsheet...
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It was £5,035.25, but somehow two of the very earliest charges got ... er ... missed off the spreadsheet...
Oops - you will have to check your figures after you get your refund....just to make sure you didn't miss anything...like interest.
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I've already told you I struggle with the whole interest thing!

It would be a boat-load of extra cash mind.... Now where's that spreadsheet with the interest thingy...
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In the templates library. Vamp is happy to help out if you have a problem with it. Perhaps if you get bored when you have done your other nine claims you could go for them all again. I can't understand you folks who aren't interested in interest (no pun intended). I am quite disappointed I can't get any from A&L, but as I had an interest free overdraft during my 7 months with them I can't really get them on that one.
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No reply to the preliminary letter.

Not even a "bog off" or a "we're investigating". Nothing. Nada. Bugger All.

Can't say I'm too surprised. They do seem very disorganised.

I had a very (un)pleasant chat with an A&L customer services robot on Friday about charges. She was the most stubborn, stupid and horrible person I have *ever* spoken to. EVER!

Looks like this one could be going MCOL...
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Looks like this one could be going MCOL...


It's always best to assume this is going to happen anyway, then you get no nasty surprises.
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Must be time for your LBA by now fivelaws.
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Indeed it is. The LBA was sent on Monday by recorded delivery, lamenting their lack of reply and re-stating that I expect the full amount to be refunded by Monday 17th July otherwise the next communication will be coming from Aldershot & Farnham County Court...

Got a reply to the first letter this morning (that's a delay of 17-days), which ignored most of the preliminary letter and focused on the OFT's investigation of credit cards - with the stress on credit cards, not *banks*. Therefore, it is argued, the OFT haven't said that the charges are unlawful.

I know this. I also know that the reasons the OFT used to determine the lawfulness applies to any other contract, including theirs...

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I've been trying and failing to speak to somebody (anybody!) at the A&L about my complaint but they REFUSE to talk to me. The "customer care team" won't discuss the complaint, despite saying on their letter "if you require any further assistance ... please don't hesitate to contact me". They don't give a complaints phone number so you have to go through the normal charade of entering account numbers, passwords etc and waiting for a customer advisor.

I tried three times yesterday and each time they ended up cutting me off (after 30-minutes wasted). The final contact promised somebody would call me. 24-hours later, I phoned again only to be told the complaints people "aren't allowed to talk to anybody". You couldn't make this up!

I've just tried the "customer advocate" phone number in the contact sticky, but it isn't even an A&L number - it's for MBNA...!!!???!!!

Does anybody have an actual direct dial phone number of anybody in the complaints department?
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Sorry fivelaws, can't help with a phone number, but did wonder why you want to talk to them?

Your LBA only went off this week didn't it?

Why not just stick to the timetable?
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Our letters crossed in the post and I wanted to ensure they had received the LBA and that there was no confusion about what & why the second letter was sent.

I should have saved my breath.

For anybody elses info, the best number is group customer relations : 0116 200 4444. They will (eventually) put you through to somebody. Even if that somebody is as useless as a chocolate teapot...
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No response and today is the deadline, so I phoned to find out what they were playing at. Apparently a letter was sent today. I asked what it said (in the hope it was some sort of concession) but no, it's a "sod off and die" letter.

I'm actually going to fill out a paper N1 and hand-deliver it to my local court (Aldershot & Farnham) on Monday morning.

Gross stupidity by the A&L. They have refused to enter into any meaningful dialogue about this issue and once I've got my cash back (plus a delightfully HUGE amount of s.69 interest) I will continue to pursue these idiots through FOS and if need be the FSA. I'd like to see the b*stards try closing the account either - I'll be injuncting them so fast they'll get a nose bleed....
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